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ledhead36
11-17-2008, 01:03 PM
From Environmental Defense's Oceans Alive Guide: "Even though striped bass are both farmed and wild-caught in an environmentally sustainable manner, Environmental Defense recommends that you eat only farmed striped bass because of high levels of contaminants in wild striped bass."

captnemo
11-17-2008, 01:41 PM
ledhead, there is certainly a lot of truth to that statement. Striped bass are bottom feeders. They feed in many areas contaminated by PCBs from previously unsupervised dumping. There are many advisories out there advising people not to eat the fatty part of the striped bass, ie the belly and stomach areas, and the darker meat.

I always fillet any bass we are taking. Dark meat is always cut out. For some people who eat fish regularly, particularly pregnant women, there is a risk. All stats are available online.

So logically, a farm raised fish would have none of the risk inherent in eating a wild striped bass.

One point of caution, however: the Environmental Defense Group that put out this statement is, I believe, funded by the PEW Trust, a huge series of groups with a lot of money behind it. It is my opinion that these groups will not be fully satisfied until they stop all fishing worldwide. I feel they cleverly set up agendas to scare people and "raise concerns".

But what is their real agenda? Take a look at the following paragraphs and link, and decide for yourself:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5213

Pew Trust Info-
Assets: $197,741,615 (2005)

Grants Received: $232,032,960 (2005)
Grants Awarded: $198,477,867 (2005)


The Pew Charitable Trusts (PCT) are comprised of seven individual funds established between 1948 and 1979 by the four children of Joseph N. Pew, founder of the Sun Oil Company, and his wife Mary A. Pew.

Mr. Pew and his immediate heirs were politically conservative, as were most of the causes that PCT supported in its early years. In recent decades, however, leftwing staffers have taken control of the organization, radically transforming its ideology and funding philosophy. Particularly responsible for this change was the late neurosurgeon Thomas W. Langfitt, who served as PCT's President and Chief Executive Officer from 1987 through 1994.

Rebecca Rimel (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1745), who joined the Trusts in 1983 as Health Program Manager, ascended to the positions of President and CEO in 1994 when Langfitt, her mentor, retired. She became the Executive Director in 1998.

PCT currently identifies its three major objectives as: (a) "to support the arts, heritage, health and well-being of our diverse citizenry and civic life, with particular emphasis on Philadelphia"; (b) "to inform the public on key issues and trends, as a highly credible source of independent, non-partisan research and polling information"; and (c) "to inform and advance the debate on issues that matter to the long-term health and well-being of the American people, [and] when the case is compelling, we advocate for change."

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PCT supports myriad organizations that are passionately anti-corporate and anti-capitalist, while it simultaneously holds many millions of dollars worth of investments in major corporations. For instance, while PCT invests in Exxon-Mobil, it grants money to Greenpeace (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7222), the Ruckus Society (http://www.followthenetwork.org/ftnasp/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6714), the U.S. Public Interest Research Group (http://www.followthenetwork.org/ftnasp/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6782), Public Citizen (http://www.followthenetwork.org/ftnasp/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6430), Global Exchange (http://www.followthenetwork.org/ftnasp/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6151), the EarthJustice (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6970) Legal Defense Fund, Friends of the Earth (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6934), the Sierra Club (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6930), the World Resources Institute (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7070), the World Wildlife Fund (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6902), the Wilderness Society (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6917),

the Environmental Defense Fund (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6940),

Trust for Public Land (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6911), the Environmental Working Group (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6928), the Rainforest Alliance (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7054), the Izaak Walton League of America (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6912), the Rainforest Action Network (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6904), the Natural Resources Defense Council (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6898), the Nature Conservancy (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7221), and a host of other environmentalist groups that view Exxon-Mobil as an ecological menace.

PCT is the largest funding source for the Tides Center (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5184), having given the latter nearly $109 million between 1990 and 2002. ...; SeaWeb; the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse; the Center for Science in the Public Interest; and the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy.

In addition to earmarking enormous sums of money to fund the projects and activities of the aforementioned organizations, PCT also proposes its own policy solutions in a number of areas:

Protecting Ocean Life (http://www.pewtrusts.com/ideas/index.cfm?issue=16): "Our marine work is aimed at preserving the biological integrity of marine ecosystems and primarily focuses on efforts to curb overfishing, reduce bycatch and prevent the destruction of marine habitat."

smittyplugs
11-17-2008, 08:44 PM
you can always use the rule of thumb as i use that is .
i never eat fish cause thay pee and poop in the water yuk lol.

pinhead44
11-18-2008, 01:38 PM
you can always use the rule of thumb as i use that is .
i never eat fish cause thay pee and poop in the water yuk lol.

Sounds basic enough. I guess you don't eat lobster then?:D

dogfish
11-18-2008, 02:18 PM
I hvae eeten strippers for 20 yaers, nevir a problum. I alsway cut out the bellee meet. I am viry helthy.;)

wish4fish
11-18-2008, 04:20 PM
I hvae eeten strippers for 20 yaers, nevir a problum. ;)

ha ha theres your problem right there, man, lol. eat 2 many strippers and ya end up with a bad case of the crabs! :laugh:

rockhopper
11-19-2008, 01:35 PM
ha ha theres your problem right there, man, lol. eat 2 many strippers and ya end up with a bad case of the crabs! :laugh:

I think we've all run into a bad tasting bearded clam at least once.:eek:

williehookem
12-17-2008, 10:38 AM
ha ha theres your problem right there, man, lol. eat 2 many strippers and ya end up with a bad case of the crabs! :laugh:


I think we've all run into a bad tasting bearded clam at least once.:eek:

priceless :D