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bababooey
12-11-2008, 02:50 PM
This was in the APP. I hope they don't turn oversight over to the town.




Inlet access issue raises larger questions


By JOHN GEISER • CORRESPONDENT • December 5, 2008The proposal that the state Department of Environmental Protection yield its authority over access to the edges of Shark River Inlet has generated a growing wave of protest from anglers.

Residents in the area have complained about noise, conduct and trash from persons using the state property, and they have appealed to Assemblyman Dave Rible, R-Mon., to ask the DEP to give the borough of Avon the authority to regulate the property.

Fishermen understand that the actions of a few persons can upset residents, and most try to conduct themselves as good neighbors.
Unfortunately, there are those who do not care, and ignore rules, laws and a simple feeling for others.

Rible finds himself between a jetty boulder and a ledge: the public demanding more access to the water and private interests wanting more restrictions.

The state is leaning increasingly toward public access to the water and sharing the waterfront.
Anglers, surfers, divers and others who use the water and beaches are still fuming over the loss of the public street ends in Deal and other municipalities years ago.

Rible recently met with state and local officials in an attempt to ensure access for local fishermen to the edges of Shark River Inlet while preserving the quality of life for nearby residents.

Bob Matthews of the Fisherman's Den, Belmar, said many anglers are complaining to him about dwindling access to the water, and threats of more regulations.

He said the latest proposal that Avon be given control of state land bordering Shark River Inlet has particularly alarmed anglers.
"When the Department of Environmental Protection gives up its right to the land, and lets towns impose rules, they are giving up a public trust," he said.

"We can appreciate homeowners' complaints, but others have rights to public land," he continued. "I would caution the assemblyman not to push for a borough takeover of this property as it will surely lead to a fishing closure, especially at night when most of the bass fishermen are out.

"We are quite sure that, if Avon is given power over this area, other towns will seek the same consideration from the DEP; so they can appease the taxpayers of their towns.

"I find it strange that the assemblyman would ask the DEP to give up this land while the DEP wants private marina owners to allow 24-hour access to the water in front of their property," he added.

"This is a slippery slope we are on here; I hope they come up with a better solution," he concluded.
The DEP has been working for two years to widen public access to the waterfront, and is receiving pressure from not only marina operators and oceanfront municipalities seeking exemptions from access requirements, but also industrial waterfront owners. The industrial owners' concerns have culminated in a state Senate bill, S-1921, that would exempt transportation, energy, port and other properties from having to provide public access.

The argument is based on the need to protect these properties from the threat of terrorist attacks. The measure is sponsored by Sens. Jeffrey Van Drew, D-Cape May, and Andrew Ciesla, R-Ocean. The legislation would have the greatest impact on the shores of the new York-New Jersey harbor complex and along the Delaware River where shipping terminals and fuel refineries line the shore.

Rible, along with Avon Police Chief Terence Mahon, administrator Timothy Gallagher and Commissioner Robert McGovern met with John Hazen and Tom Micai of the state Department of Environmental Protection to discuss the Shark River Inlet problem. The inlet is a popular and productive place to fish. It has been that way for generations, but there are growing problems.

The thoughtless few are there with and without fishing gear, banging car doors in the middle of the night, talking loudly and ignoring the rights and sensitivities of nearby property owners.
Greg Hueth, president of the Shark River Surf Anglers, said he has seen the conduct of those who use the edges of the inlet for recreation worsen over the years.

"I have been fishing this area for over 25 years, and there is no doubt that people's behavior has changed," he said. "We want access, but there has to be consideration for the environment and the people who live along the inlet."
Hueth said he has personally never had a problem with property owners along the inlet. "It's easy to fish there at night without disturbing anyone," he said. "You just have to use a little common sense. "I love fishing at night, but you can't go into any neighborhood slamming car doors at 2 a.m," he said.

Rible said he sought help from the state in coming to an agreement on how to regulate the site. The strip of land located at the end of 1st Ave and continuing to the Ocean Avenue Bridge is maintained by the borough of Avon, but is owned by the state, Rible explained. This means that the borough does not have the jurisdiction to regulate the use of the property.
"We are working very closely with the DEP to devise a plan that will resolve the situation without restricting the public's access to the property," Rible said.

bababooey
12-11-2008, 02:53 PM
Some of the viewer comments:

apprdr wrote:

The strip of land from the end of 1st Ave to Ocean Avenue is literally covered in trash all summer long..there are garbage cans there supplied by the town and you will find trash laying right near them. It is one of the most disgusting areas I have seen fishing.
Most of the people who fish this area are not from our area, and trash it every day.
This year they had TENTs set up in the area on many days, right in front of that million dollar home that is for sale...you will find rotten bait, plastic bags, and dead fish along the wall..it is a real shame. THis is not a camping area.
Honestly I don't care if access is lost here, and I am an avid fisherman...If I was an avon resident I would be very upset and probably want access banned also.

The alternative might be to require a saltwater fishing license to educate and weed out the folks who disrespect nature.

clamchucker
12-12-2008, 05:05 PM
Bababooey, you are right on point by posting that comment. There are probably many more that feel that way, and many of them are well-to-do homeowners in that area. I don't blame them, I have seen the trash and public urination, it makes you sick sometimes. Also, there are people who have treated that area as a camping ground. Has anyone else here seen the tents during the summer?

I also fish Raritan Bay extensively in the spring and summer. The town of Belford has similar problems. I have witnessed families coming there with tents, children and their dogs. They should somehow charge a fee for that, or preferably set up rules and regulations so people can't camp there. Fishing is one thing, but camping and public urination, and littering, give all fishermen a bad image. Something should be done about that.

Sephus3
03-11-2009, 10:29 AM
It's a tough arguement to fight. especially when both sides have viable points. Hopefully a compromise can be met where both sides can accept. They may not be happy with every aspect of the decision but I'm sure so sacrafices will have to be made.

Then maybe it can be a blueprint for all areas that have similar issues.

gjb1969
03-11-2009, 06:31 PM
well i am glad i dont fish the avon side anymore:laugh: all jokes aside it is a mess down there:argue:i bring bags to clean with me but so many just dont care and thats sad:(

DarkSkies
03-12-2009, 08:32 AM
This was in the APP. I hope they don't turn oversight over to the town. :burn:




Inlet access issue raises larger questions


By JOHN GEISER • CORRESPONDENT • December 5, 2008The proposal that the state Department of Environmental Protection yield its authority over access to the edges of Shark River Inlet has generated a growing wave of protest from anglers.


Anglers, surfers, divers and others who use the water and beaches are still fuming over the loss of the public street ends in Deal and other municipalities years ago.


I feel bad about that, but saw fisrthand what some careless fishermen did, from pissing on provate property to parking in private driveways when the bite was on. Last year we also lost access at St Alphonso's because of stuff like this. :kooky:

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He said the latest proposal that Avon be given control of state land bordering Shark River Inlet has particularly alarmed anglers.
"When the Department of Environmental Protection gives up its right to the land, and lets towns impose rules, they are giving up a public trust," he said.

"We are quite sure that, if Avon is given power over this area, other towns will seek the same consideration from the DEP; so they can appease the taxpayers of their towns.

"I find it strange that the assemblyman would ask the DEP to give up this land while the DEP wants private marina owners to allow 24-hour access to the water in front of their property," he added.

"This is a slippery slope we are on here; I hope they come up with a better solution," he concluded.
The DEP has been working for two years to widen public access to the waterfront, and is receiving pressure from not only marina operators and oceanfront municipalities seeking exemptions from access requirements, but also industrial waterfront owners. The industrial owners' concerns have culminated in a state Senate bill, S-1921, that would exempt transportation, energy, port and other properties from having to provide public access.

The argument is based on the need to protect these properties from the threat of terrorist attacks. The measure is sponsored by Sens. Jeffrey Van Drew, D-Cape May, and Andrew Ciesla, R-Ocean. The legislation would have the greatest impact on the shores of the new York-New Jersey harbor complex and along the Delaware River where shipping terminals and fuel refineries line the shore.

The thoughtless few are there with and without fishing gear, banging car doors in the middle of the night, talking loudly and ignoring the rights and sensitivities of nearby property owners.
Greg Hueth, president of the Shark River Surf Anglers, said he has seen the conduct of those who use the edges of the inlet for recreation worsen over the years.

"I have been fishing this area for over 25 years, and there is no doubt that people's behavior has changed," he said. "We want access, but there has to be consideration for the environment and the people who live along the inlet."
Hueth said he has personally never had a problem with property owners along the inlet. "It's easy to fish there at night without disturbing anyone," he said. "You just have to use a little common sense. "I love fishing at night, but you can't go into any neighborhood slamming car doors at 2 a.m," he said.




This sounds like similar to what they're trying to do in Brookhaven, using a rarely enforced law to hide the real goal of keeping fishermen out.
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57

Greg Hueth is a good spokesman, I hope he and the Shark River surf anglers can keep this in the forefront of the media and public eye. This would be a big loss for everyone.

surferman
06-25-2009, 12:00 AM
Does anyone have any type of update on this issue?