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VSdreams
08-21-2009, 08:43 PM
Bluefish Smorgasbord in the Surf

A huge variety of fish are available in the surf

By Ron Brooks


With the spring migration of baitfish and the always-following predator fish comes an opportunity that happens only twice each year. Baitfish move south in the fall and north in the spring. As they move up and down the coast, surf anglers have a heyday casting and catching a smorgasbord variety of fish that feed on this bait.


Schools of bluefish, sometimes up to ten pounds or more will follow, circle and attack the huge schools of silver mullet migrating north. Watching this awesome phenomenon while standing on the beach is a thrill. Mullet scatter and leap everywhere as five and six pound bluefish become completely airborne at times, with a mullet in their jaws.

Anything – literally any lure – will catch these bluefish. When they are in a feeding frenzy like this, they strike anything close to them that moves. Surf anglers stand on top of their beach vehicles with binoculars watching the surf in both directions, looking for a school of feeding fish. Once fish are sighted, these specialists run the beach to the fish, hop out and begin casting to the frenzy.
Sometimes wading to water waste deep is necessary in order to cast and reach the school of fish. Stories of fingers being chopped and legs being attacked by huge bluefish appear in the news every year. These fish can be vicious.

The bluefish angler will cast spoons and lures and thrill to the fight. But for every handful of bluefish anglers, there are one or two anglers who are just as excited, but a little less rattled. You can see these surf fishermen making long casts with heavy pyramid sinkers and cut bait. They are fishing under the school of bluefish.
Years ago I was witness to an amazing day at Buxton on Cape Hatteras. As bluefish tore up the surface and came close to the breaking surf, flounder, some of them ten pounds or more, were swimming right up on the beach. It seems they were feeding on the chopped up remains of the baitfish that the bluefish were chasing, and the bluefish in turn were chasing them. In an effort to get away they moved to shallow water, a place where the bluefish could not follow. The only problem was, the water quickly ran away from them as the wave retreated and left them stranded on the beach. Surf anglers were running around picking up flounder everywhere. It was an amazing sight.

The bottom fishing surf anglers, fishing under the blues will catch their share of flounder. But they will also catch some very nice redfish. Huge breeder reds, returning from the offshore spawn will also prowl under the schools of baitfish. I think there is no preference on their part as to which baitfish, but they tend to hang with the menhaden shad more than the mullet. Menhaden stay tightly schooled and move slowly up and down the beach. Mullet tend to move more quickly, and I believe it takes more effort for them to stay with the mullet.

Whether in a boat fishing the beach or from the beach fishing the surf, Anglers can catch some huge redfish under a large school of menhaden. How huge, you ask? Guide friends in North Florida catch fish in the thirty to fifty pound range on literally every trip this time of year. They find a school of and catch some menhaden, then drift with that school as they put their baits on the bottom under them.
Along with the redfish come some huge bluefish, an occasional cobia, and what some would consider an over abundance of sharks – truly a smorgasbord of fish from which to choose. This next trip, why not give the surf a try? It’s time to get out there are get some!

http://saltfishing.about.com/cs/surffishing/a/aa030406a.htm

Frankiesurf
08-22-2009, 11:57 AM
Surf anglers stand on top of their beach vehicles with binoculars watching the surf in both directions, looking for a school of feeding fish. Once fish are sighted, these specialists run the beach to the fish, hop out and begin casting to the frenzy.


Sometimes wading to water waste deep is necessary in order to cast and reach the school of fish. As bluefish tore up the surface and came close to the breaking surf, flounder, some of them ten pounds or more, were swimming right up on the beach.

The only problem was, the water quickly ran away from them as the wave retreated and left them stranded on the beach. Surf anglers were running around picking up flounder everywhere.

Is this guy a fisherman or reporter or neither?

Specialists wait for fish to break the surface?

I am not wading in waste water. Maybe waist deep but not in waste.

Real surf anglers would throw those fish back, not pick them up. That isn't angling.

stripercrazy
08-22-2009, 03:21 PM
Here comes the grammar police. Don't you think those comments were a little elitist?:rolleyes:

Frankiesurf
08-22-2009, 03:50 PM
Nope.

stripercrazy
08-22-2009, 03:57 PM
Nope.

The title as I read it was info for beginners. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say police, maybe gestapo would have been more appropriate. Have you never made grammar or spelling errors in your life?:huh:

fishinmission78
08-22-2009, 04:07 PM
Real surf anglers would throw those fish back, not pick them up. That isn't angling.

I don't know how you guys did it, but back about 50 years ago in NJ there would be frost fish in the winter, where whiting came up on the beach chasing bait. They would get stuck on the beach, and freeze up because it was so cold. Guys would bring bushel baskets or potato sacks to collect them. Would you throw those fish back? What about if you were fishing and a wayward bluefin popped up in the suds, would you put that back? I know I wouldn't, I would be having sushi for dinner.:dribble:

dogfish
08-22-2009, 04:18 PM
I like sushi.:heart:

Frankiesurf
08-22-2009, 08:04 PM
I throw just about everything back. I have kept two fish this year and both were blues that completely sucked in a pencil popper and a tin respectively. I found a green crab at Montauk yesterday who was wandering up the path to the parking lot. I picked him up and walked him all the way back to the water.
I plan on keeping only my personal bests or fish that are just not going to make it.

As far as grammar and spelling goes, I really try to be correct. I do it for the kids today and their moron language. If I don't know how to spell a word, well then I just look it up. It is sometimes a discipline because it is easier not to use it but I like sounding halfway intelligent. It masks my true stupidity.

If an article, or post for that matter, is poorly written it may be very difficult to understand. If you pay attention to how you write, both grammatically and with spelling, it will make for an easy read and also clearly and concisely get your point across.

I am sorry but waist and waste should not be confused by a professional writer.

I also like sushi.

I also do sarcasm!

Frankiesurf
08-22-2009, 08:24 PM
With the experience Ron Brooks has, how did this article get past editing?

Ron was born in Miami and spent his childhood there and in Key West. He has fished from Maine to California, and most points in between. He is an experienced fisherman, an award-winning outdoor writer and a Coast Guard trained boat captain with over 48 years on the water. He is a member of the Georgia Outdoor Writers Association (GOWA), Florida Outdoor Writers Association (FOWA), and the Southeastern Outdoor Press Association (SEOPA). For the past ten years Ron has won awards in the Excellence in Craft (EIC) competition from the Georgia Outdoor Writers Association. He had the top electronic media story for seven of those years, and the top outdoor magazine article in 2006.

Stripercoast1
08-23-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm gonna have to agree with Frankie on this one.
If you want an easy fish, buy it.
If your going to write for a living, sentence structure and spelling are as important as the point of it.
Sure my grammar and spelling are off sometimes, but anytime I've written for publication, the spell check button is my best freind.
I have helped fish back into the water in the past. Watched a school of Ambers chase Lady fish up onto a sea wall in Panama City, craziest thing I've ever witnessed. 50 lb fish floppin around on the rocks. We put at least a dozen back into the water.

nitestrikes
08-24-2009, 01:33 PM
I do it for the kids today and their moron language. If I don't know how to spell a word, well then I just look it up. It is sometimes a discipline because it is easier not to use it but I like sounding halfway intelligent. It masks my true stupidity.

If an article, or post for that matter, is poorly written it may be very difficult to understand. If you pay attention to how you write, both grammatically and with spelling, it will make for an easy read and also clearly and concisely get your point across.

I am sorry but waist and waste should not be confused by a professional writer.

I also like sushi.

I also do sarcasm!

You fellas are 2 intense here, after all it's just bluefish he's talking about. I did like the self-deprecating reference, tho. As for waste deep, did you ever fish Jamaica or Sheepshead bays? you could easily confuse those terms there.:D

Frankiesurf
08-24-2009, 05:56 PM
You fellas are 2 intense here, after all it's just bluefish he's talking about. I did like the self-deprecating reference, tho. As for waste deep, did you ever fish Jamaica or Sheepshead bays? you could easily confuse those terms there.:D

But if he said "wading through animal sacrifices" then that would be deemed as spot burning. That is another tirade in itself.

albiealert
04-26-2010, 07:39 PM
Years ago I was witness to an amazing day at Buxton on Cape Hatteras. As bluefish tore up the surface and came close to the breaking surf, flounder, some of them ten pounds or more, were swimming right up on the beach. It seems they were feeding on the chopped up remains of the baitfish that the bluefish were chasing, and the bluefish in turn were chasing them. In an effort to get away they moved to shallow water, a place where the bluefish could not follow. The only problem was, the water quickly ran away from them as the wave retreated and left them stranded on the beach. Surf anglers were running around picking up flounder everywhere. It was an amazing sight.



:drool: Wow I never heard of flounder being beached by bluefish! I would definitely bring some home for dinner, they are going to die anyway. What is it that people have to criticize every thing a fisherman does, we should all go out and enjoy our fishing. :fishing:

speedy
04-26-2010, 08:40 PM
i 2nd that sir

rockhopper
05-22-2012, 09:19 PM
i 2nd that sir

X3!

ledhead36
05-09-2014, 03:35 PM
I don't know how you guys did it, but back about 50 years ago in NJ there would be frost fish in the winter, where whiting came up on the beach chasing bait. They would get stuck on the beach, and freeze up because it was so cold. Guys would bring bushel baskets or potato sacks to collect them. Would you throw those fish back? What about if you were fishing and a wayward bluefin popped up in the suds, would you put that back? I know I wouldn't, I would be having sushi for dinner.:dribble:

I remember that my Dad used to bring them home and get them smoked in Belford off Rt 36. Smoked whiting delish.
For the guys who want to catch blues they are here now come and get em. We fished a r bay beach last ngith and they were liking our bunker chunks. One even hit a clam. All small up to about 7lbs. You could probably get them plugging or with small metal too.

CharlieTuna
05-09-2014, 05:08 PM
I remember the pier as well. Great fishing.
The best advice I can give a beginner about blues is to chunk for them with bait. It's a great way for a father to introduce his sons to fishing. Early in the season they are less likely to take lures and bait almost guarantees you a blue.

hookset
05-10-2014, 05:57 AM
Also once the water warms up a krocodile spoon or a gibbs popper is hard for them to resist.

seamonkey
05-18-2014, 02:56 PM
I have been fishing for bluefish for a long time. Most of the time it is bunker chunks in the water. You toss one in and catch a bluefish, Rinse and repeat.. Today I drove up to nnj to fish for them and found it actually hard. I had some biteoffs and missed a lot of hits. If any of you guys is catching a lot and would care to share I would appreciate it. Heard there are some giant blues out there.

VSdreams
05-19-2014, 11:54 AM
I would also like to ask if anyone knows - does a wire leader decrease the possibility that they will hit what you're throwing? I have heard of so many breakoffs by guys tossing both bait and lures and was wondering if wire would help solve this.

hookset
05-19-2014, 01:56 PM
I have been fishing for bluefish for a long time. Most of the time it is bunker chunks in the water. You toss one in and catch a bluefish, Rinse and repeat.. Today I drove up to nnj to fish for them and found it actually hard. I had some biteoffs and missed a lot of hits. If any of you guys is catching a lot and would care to share I would appreciate it. Heard there are some giant blues out there.

When the water is cold you have to pay closer attention. They will hit meat cause its easy for them. Getting them to hit metal you have to tease them a bit. Hope this helps and your hookup ratio gets better. If it doesn't you should not drink when fishing, lol.:HappyWave:

madcaster
05-19-2014, 03:03 PM
though far ....cheap lures ..no treble hooks ..some good pliers .....have fun ...all you need to know

buckethead
05-20-2014, 06:45 PM
I would also like to ask if anyone knows - does a wire leader decrease the possibility that they will hit what you're throwing? I have heard of so many breakoffs by guys tossing both bait and lures and was wondering if wire would help solve this.

I never use a wire leader. I feel it cuts down on your catches in the day and is unnecessary for plugging. If they are big just up the size of your mono leader.