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Monty
06-05-2010, 02:42 PM
Now I have to watch the birds covered in oil from this gulf oil spill on TV.
Watch them die.
One by one wildlife will suffer and die because stupid, ignorant, self loathing, single minded human beings are screwing up this world.
How this was not declared a national emergency on the second day and every resource to this country was not used to stop this human destruction boggles my tiny mind.
Makes me sick.
I find this utterly unbelievable.
If I had my way thousands of people would be jailed for lengthy times because of this.
And our president would be one of them.
Lack of action is not an excuse, it should be a crime.
JMHO
albiealert
06-05-2010, 03:12 PM
How this was not declared a national emergency on the second day and every resource to this country was not used to stop this human destruction boggles my tiny mind.
Makes me sick.
I find this utterly unbelievable.
If I had my way thousands of people would be jailed for lengthy times because of this.
And our president would be one of them.
Lack of action is not an excuse, it should be a crime.
JMHO
Absolutely couldn't agree more monty. The longer they fail to control it the more billions it will cost to fix in the long run. Some pics of the birds from another site, it's disgraceful.
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basshunter
06-05-2010, 04:02 PM
Makes me sick looking at those pics.:burn:
Pebbles
06-05-2010, 04:11 PM
Devastation at its finest. How many are going to die? How many will be helped?
CharlieTuna
06-05-2010, 05:40 PM
Devastation at its finest. How many are going to die? How many will be helped?
I think that however many will be helped is a drop in the bucket Pebbles. Many of those birds will die and drop to the bottom. They pictures they are showing are maybe 20% of the affected life they will find, the rest will disintegrate on the bottom over time. What a mess this is, Monty, they should fix it soon. There should be no limit to the amount spent on it now. They should be working on this 24/7 until it is capped. I think people should be held criminally or civilly responsible for this. The CEO of BP should be fired in the very least. Some will be blamed, others will walk, But some individuals have to be held accountable. This will result in untold billions in damages. Even if if cost 10 billion to fix it today it would be a lot better than the collateral damage we have to pay for tomorrow. You can't put a price on lost revenue from tourists that didn't come, or trips that were not booked, because people don't want to swim or have recreation near where an oil spill is.
rip316
06-05-2010, 07:34 PM
Do not let Dark see these pics. please.
surfwalker
06-05-2010, 10:36 PM
The feelings expressed in the previous posts are shared by me also. I am amazed, really appalled at the coporate world for their greed, at any cost, with no regard for the consequences of their actions. I cannot believe that things are done with no backup plan, no thought of something going wrong, the let's try this attitude, instead of a set plan that takes effect immeadiately. And what's it all for-money, at any expense.
We are seeing the at once effects of this spill right now, but what about the lingering effects in years to come. Marshes destroyed for how long, nesting areas, breeding grounds, spawning areas, plant life on the bottom of the ocean destroyed. Everything relies on something else to maintain it's being, if one is knocked out, then the balance is upset. How long will it take nature to come back from this unbalance?
And yet it is still not fixed, they are all stymied, and the destruction goes on.
My fear is that we are being run by a bunch of baffoons, no true answers or problem solvers, but just a bunch of dancing tongues.
Yes, Monty, it makes me sick also.
surfstix1963
06-06-2010, 06:02 AM
Now I have to watch the birds covered in oil from this gulf oil spill on TV.
Watch them die.
One by one wildlife will suffer and die because stupid, ignorant, self loathing, single minded human beings are screwing up this world.
How this was not declared a national emergency on the second day and every resource to this country was not used to stop this human destruction boggles my tiny mind.
Makes me sick.
I find this utterly unbelievable.
If I had my way thousands of people would be jailed for lengthy times because of this.
And our president would be one of them.
Lack of action is not an excuse, it should be a crime.
JMHO
That pretty much explains how I feel about this destruction to our land, waters,wildlife and fish and the President should be doing something about it all hands on deck back bill BP for our efforts or a fine of a Million a day may kick them up a notch they should be fully prepared for an emergency like this.:burn:
Monty
06-08-2010, 09:43 PM
Obama acknowledged that he hasn't directly spoken to BP's chief executive.
What in the world is going on?
I absolutely hate this clown.
DarkSkies
06-09-2010, 07:52 AM
Do not let Dark see these pics. please.
The pics make ya sick to look at them, Rip. I'm sure if one were to see it in person it would be a lot worse.
Obama acknowledged that he hasn't directly spoken to BP's chief executive.
Whenever there's a crisis of this magnitude, you would expect our Chief Executive, Commander in Chief, to somehow be in contact with the head executive of the company central to the crisis.
Sounds reasonable, right?
Nope. :beatin:
rip316
06-09-2010, 08:45 AM
I would not want to see it in person, trust me. Why hasn't our chief of staff spoken to the Ahole responsible for this mishap. Great president we have. Why in the world did these effin people put him in office. I guess for a change of scenery. Thought it would be cool i guess. As soon as I heard his terroristic name I was telling myself he would never get in. Low and behold he did. What a ********.
rip316
06-09-2010, 08:47 AM
His middle name is hussein for crying out loud. We just killed a ruler of a country and his name was Hussein. Make any sense to you people. Yes I can screw the country up worse that before. yes I can.
DarkSkies
07-05-2010, 10:37 AM
Help may be on the way, Monty.
Rip Plugger sent me this about an oil-eating "whale".
The article said skeptics have their reasonable doubts. I hope they can figure out some strategies soon.
http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1&aid=38047155
Monty
07-06-2010, 12:52 PM
What happens when a hurricane blasts through that area?
I have lots of hope.
Zero trust that this country or anyone involved in this mess is competent in handling this catastrophe.
I hope they stop the leak and wish that the oil will be cleaned up. That’s the best I can do.
Otherwise watching the news show pictures and talk about what is going on with this mess makes me sick and very angry.
basshunter
07-06-2010, 10:33 PM
Zero trust that this country or anyone involved in this mess is competent in handling this catastrophe.
All this time, and still no one has been fired or reprimanded. Zero trust for me too.
porgy75
02-20-2011, 03:36 PM
t first they said the damage would be minimized by 2012
Now they say the collateral dammage from the oil spill will take many years to fix itself.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_sci_oil_spill_lingers
Scientist finds Gulf bottom still oily, dead
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By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein, Ap Science Writer – Sat Feb 19, 8:53 pm ET
WASHINGTON – Oil from the BP spill remains stuck on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, according to a top scientist's video and slides that she says demonstrate the oil isn't degrading as hoped and has decimated life on parts of the sea floor.
That report is at odds with a recent report by the BP spill compensation czar that said nearly all will be well by 2012.
At a science conference in Washington Saturday, marine scientist Samantha Joye of the University of Georgia aired early results of her December submarine dives around the BP spill site. She went to places she had visited in the summer and expected the oil and residue from oil-munching microbes would be gone by then. It wasn't.
"There's some sort of a bottleneck we have yet to identify for why this stuff doesn't seem to be degrading," Joye told the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual conference in Washington. Her research and those of her colleagues contrasts with other studies that show a more optimistic outlook about the health of the gulf, saying microbes did great work munching the oil.
"Magic microbes consumed maybe 10 percent of the total discharge, the rest of it we don't know," Joye said, later adding: "there's a lot of it out there."
The head of the agency in charge of the health of the Gulf said Saturday that she thought that "most of the oil is gone." And a Department of Energy scientist, doing research with a grant from BP from before the spill, said his examination of oil plumes in the water column show that microbes have done a "fairly fast" job of eating the oil. Lawrence Berkeley National Lab scientist Terry Hazen said his research differs from Joye's because they looked at different places at different times.
Joye's research was more widespread, but has been slower in being published in scientific literature.
In five different expeditions, the last one in December, Joye and colleagues took 250 cores of the sea floor and travelled across 2,600 square miles. Some of the locations she had been studying before the oil spill on April 20 and said there was a noticeable change. Much of the oil she found on the sea floor — and in the water column — was chemically fingerprinted, proving it comes from the BP spill. Joye is still waiting for results to show other oil samples she tested are from BP's Macondo well.
She also showed pictures of oil-choked bottom-dwelling creatures. They included dead crabs and brittle stars — starfish like critters that are normally bright orange and tightly wrapped around coral. These brittle stars were pale, loose and dead. She also saw tube worms so full of oil they suffocated.
"This is Macondo oil on the bottom," Joye said as she showed slides. "This is dead organisms because of oil being deposited on their heads."
Joye said her research shows that the burning of oil left soot on the sea floor, which still had petroleum products. And even more troublesome was the tremendous amount of methane from the BP well that mixed into the Gulf and was mostly ignored by other researchers.
Joye and three colleagues last week published a study in Nature Geoscience that said the amount of gas injected into the Gulf was the equivalent of between 1.5 and 3 million barrels of oil.
"The gas is an important part of understanding what happened," said Ian MacDonald of Florida State University.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco told reporters Saturday that "it's not a contradiction to say that although most of the oil is gone, there still remains oil out there."
Earlier this month, Kenneth Feinberg, the government's oil compensation fund czar, said based on research he commissioned he figured the Gulf of Mexico would almost fully recover by 2012 — something Joye and Lubchenco said isn't right.
"I've been to the bottom. I've seen what it looks like with my own eyes. It's not going to be fine by 2012," Joye told The Associated Press. "You see what the bottom looks like, you have a different opinion."
NOAA chief Lubchenco said "even though the oil degraded relatively rapidly and is now mostly but not all gone, damage done to a variety of species may not become obvious for years to come."
Lubchenco Saturday also announced the start of a Gulf restoration planning process to get the Gulf back to the condition it was on Apr. 19, the day before the spill. That program would eventually be paid for BP and other parties deemed responsible for the spill. This would be separate from an already begun restoration program that would improve all aspects of the Gulf, not just the oil spill, but has not been funded by the government yet, she said.
The new program, which is part of the Natural Resources Damage Assessment program, is part of the oil spill litigation — or out-of-court settlement — in which the polluters pay for overall damage to the ecosystem and efforts to return it to normal. This is different than paying compensation to people and businesses directly damaged by the spill. The process will begin with public meetings all over the region.
porgy75
02-20-2011, 03:38 PM
Dr Lubchenko seems to be very pleasant in these quotes. Why does she concentrate so much of her effort against fishermen? Why can't she go after the oil company with as much force as she concentrates on us?:huh:
Monty
03-25-2011, 07:37 PM
The world is running a muck.
dogfish
03-25-2011, 07:59 PM
Or the amuck dingoes ate my baby.:)
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