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stripermania
06-09-2010, 08:19 PM
I was out a few days ago and came across some skate that someone decided to leave laying on the beach waiting to die.

I would not think of doing that. I always throw them back. What do you do with the skate that you catch?

Monty
06-10-2010, 12:50 AM
Return it to the water as soon as possible. Don't catch many, but do the same with sea robins (return to water quickly)
I believe anyone who leaves any type of fish to die on the beach like that is an *ss hole.

surfstix1963
06-10-2010, 06:30 AM
Back to the water everything was put here for a reason although we may not know why they deserve to live just gotta watch those tails they can rake you pretty good.

speedy
06-11-2010, 12:45 AM
I was out a few days ago and came across some skate that someone decided to leave laying on the beach waiting to die.

I would not think of doing that. I always throw them back. What do you do with the skate that you catch?
they fly real well no just playing put it back hell if i was a skate
for free meal and didnot have to work for it i would bite your bait too:plastered::plastered::plastered::plastered::d: d:d

RI Popper
06-11-2010, 10:15 AM
actually the meat on the wings is very tasty and firm. Many of the scallops you buy at some resteraunts are made from the wings of skates.

Armand

bababooey
06-11-2010, 04:51 PM
actually the meat on the wings is very tasty and firm. Many of the scallops you buy at some resteraunts are made from the wings of skates.

Armand

A guy used to keep them all when I was fishing the beach with my Dad. He called them poor man's scallops.

surfwalker
06-11-2010, 05:01 PM
Saw them for sale at Shop Rite for 4.99/lb. the other day, yes, Skate Wings.

captnemo
06-11-2010, 05:39 PM
That's a bargain Surfwalker, Wegman's usually has them for around $9.99/lb.

jonthepain
06-11-2010, 05:52 PM
they make swell party hats

stormchaser
06-11-2010, 05:58 PM
A guy used to keep them all when I was fishing the beach with my Dad. He called them poor man's scallops.


Dogfish and Skate
Long Island, New York

On Long Island dogfish and skate are generally thought of as junk. They ruin the fisherman’s day and are thrown back in disgust. Because these fish are meaty, tasty, and boneless they are actually very good to eat and really don’t deserve their junk status.
If we had a better appreciation for these fish we’d have more fun, have more to eat, and there would be less pressure on more traditionally targeted species like flounder and fluke.
Fishing regulations on Long Island get tougher every year, and there are increasingly more bad fishing days than good. In light of these ever increasing restrictions on popular game and food fish I’d like to suggest something that might make a bad day fishing a little better: Keep and eat your junk fish.
I can hear the moans already. Sure, landing a skate is just not the same as pulling in a doormat or a nice size striper, but going home empty handed is no fun either. It turns out that two of the most annoying fish around, dogfish and skate, are very good eating. If that’s all you’re catching why not bring them home and cook ’em up?
Stick with me on this…
Skate is one of the ugliest fish you’ll ever catch on Long Island. Most people throw them right back into the water, but I keep them. They’re good eating and if you put them on top of your head they’ll wrap their wings around your ears like a bomber’s hat.
http://www.loving-long-island.com/image-files/skate-and-joe.jpg
My son Joe holding a skate. I wanted him to put it on his head, but he was worried it would mess up his hair.
I don’t wear my skate hat much, but I do eat them when I catch them. The meat is tender, tasty, and there are no bones to fuss with, just a thin layer of cartilage separating the muscles in their wings.
Before we go any further let me tell you that sea scallops do not come from skate. It’s myth that many have heard, but is absolutely false. You can see from the pictures here that the muscle fibers in the skate wing are completely different than those in a sea scallop. There’s no way one could pass for the other. And the flavor is different too. Enough said.
Dogfish (some people call them sand sharks) are in the same boat as the skates. There are lots of them on Long Island (http://www.loving-long-island.com/long-island.html) and when they’re around that’s all you can catch. And who wants to catch something you can’t eat anyway? But you can eat them.
http://www.loving-long-island.com/image-files/dogfish-and-joe.jpg
A decent size dogfish.
If you’re having doubts about this just keep in mind that almost all of the fish & chips consumed in England today is dogfish. This dish is traditionally made with cod, but when cod became scarce in the 1990’s dogfish was found to be an excellent substitute.
There are 2 varieties you’re likely to catch: spiny dogfish and smooth. The spiny version has 2 painfully sharp spines near each dorsal fin. As you might have guessed the smooth has no spines. I eat both, but since I’ve never done a side-by-side taste test I couldn’t really say which I like better.
Like skate there are no bones in dogfish, just a piece of cartilage that is very easy to remove after the fish is cooked.
Preparation of these fish is simple, but you must do it soon after it’s caught or the fish will start to smell like ammonia. Your best bet is to clean them as soon as you catch them or as soon as you get back to the dock.
Cut the wings off your skate and either throw the rest away or save it for bait. Kill the skate first if you like by piercing the brain with a sharp knife.
http://www.loving-long-island.com/image-files/cutting-skate-wings.jpg
There's no other meat to speak of, so just cut the wings off.
Once the wings are off they have to be skinned. Use a very sharp knife to cut between the skin and the meat, or use pliers to pull the skin off. It’s a tedious process, but gets easier with a little practice.
http://www.loving-long-island.com/image-files/skinned-skate-wing.jpgA skinned wing. You'll get 2 of these from each skate.
Dogfish are a little simpler. Just gut and skin. Some people drain the blood, but I haven’t tried that myself, so I can’t speak for its effectiveness.
Once your fish is prepped you can cook them according to your favorite recipe. I like to bake mine on a bed of plain bread crumbs moistened with good olive oil and seasoned with a little Parmesan cheese. But these are a versatile fish, so cook them however you like.
Before you cook however, there is one extremely important thing that must be done:
The flesh of fish in the shark family contains a small amount of urea as a byproduct of protein metabolism. If cooked or stored the urea will release ammonia causing an unpleasant smell.
To solve this problem you must marinate the fish for at least 4 hours (overnight is best) in a simple solution of lemon juice and water. Place the fish steaks or fillets in a shallow dish and add just enough cold water to cover. Add 1/2 teaspoon of lemon juice or 1 tablespoon of cider vinegar for every pound of fish. Other vinegars will work as well used in the same proportion as the cider vinegar.
You can use orange juice if you like, but since it is less acidic than lemon use 2 tablespoons for every pound of fish. Don’t afraid to experiment with different marinades. As long as they are acidic they’ll do the trick.
Once the fish has been marinated just cook according to your favorite recipe. I highly recommend The Dogfish Cookbook by Russ Mohney for a boat load of recipes that work for either dogfish or skate.
http://www.loving-long-island.com/image-files/peeling-away-the-cartilage.jpgSee how easily the cartilage peels away from the meat. Also note the long muscle fibers. Sea scallops don't look anything like this.
http://www.loving-long-island.com/image-files/dogfish-on-bread-crumbs.jpg
Dogfish on a bed of bread crumbs ready for the oven. Cover with foil first.
So there you have it. These fish are plentiful on Long Island, good eating, and easy to prepare. Now if they were only good fighters too. But hey, nothing is perfect.

hookset
06-11-2010, 06:33 PM
mmm, mmm, good, how about BBQ skate?:upck:To each his own, I guess.
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surfstix1963
06-12-2010, 07:51 AM
Not much on a sea robin but they are tasty kind of like the old time blowfish chicken of the sea.

CharlieTuna
12-19-2010, 08:42 PM
they make swell party hats
I have to go with this answer.:clapping:

gjb1969
12-19-2010, 10:54 PM
they go back to the water i am not going to eat them so they go back to swim another day:HappyWave: