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DarkSkies
08-26-2010, 08:00 PM
Sent in by a friend who fishes all over. :HappyWave:

Some may agree with this, some may not. I think it's important to keep bringing things like this out to all who fish, whether they can understand English or not.

On the other hand, there is always the argument where I meet someone and he says he won't eat bass from the NY Bight bays, but will eat them from the ocean.

Bass are migratory. Other than a tagged bass, there's no way to tell that the bass you caught off Point Pleasant today wasn't back in the Arthur Kill 3 weeks ago. So to the people who think the ocean bass are "always pristine" :rolleyes: while the dirty water bass are "always contaminated" :eek: I encourage you all to re-examine those thoughts.

Thanks for reading, people. And please pass this on to those who you think will benefit. :thumbsup:


The article:
http://www.northjersey.com/news/101448324_Where_danger_is_the_catch.html

Where danger is the catch: Many still dine on poisoned seafood from Lower Passaic River
Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Last updated: Wednesday August 25, 2010, 8:01 AM
BY JENNIFER H. CUNNINGHAM
The Record
STAFF WRITER
#printDesc{display:none;}For most people who throw a baited hook into the polluted lower Passaic River, it's a given that eating what you catch is both illegal and really bad for you.
But state and federal officials say there are still those who — for economic or cultural reasons — shrug off the danger posed by the brew of industrial chemicals lurking in the 17-mile tidal stretch between the Dundee Dam at Garfield and Clifton down to Newark Bay. And so, despite a nearly 30-year ban on consuming fish and shellfish from the lower Passaic, there's no letting down their guard, or their warning efforts.
"It's been on our radar for many years," said Dr. Gary Buchanan, manager of the office of science at the state Department of Environmental Protection. "It's been a big focus of a lot of outreach efforts. We put tremendous resources into getting the message out."
The message has gotten through to most: Buchanan said five years ago the state surveyed anglers and found that the number eating the tainted seafood had gone down. But still, almost half of those who fish the Newark Bay Complex — which also includes Newark Bay, Kill Van Kull, Arthur Kill and the Hackensack River — consume their catch, according to the 2005 survey by the state Department of Environmental Protection, the most recent available.
Buchanan acknowledged that even today, contaminated seafood like blue crab, catfish and carp still is finding its way onto family dinner tables.
"You can't be there seven days a week, 365 days a year," he said. "But we try to get the word out."
At the Passaic River banks at Westside Park in Paterson on a recent sunny afternoon, anglers cast their lines out into the waterway, which was choked in some spots by algae blooms and fallen tree branches. Nearly all surveyed said they do not consume the fish they catch and release them after they're caught.
"I just come out here to clear my head," Allie Wimberly of Paterson said of why she enjoys fishing. Wimberly said she is from the South, where fishing is a social norm in some communities. "I don't keep anything from out of there. The water's dirty. I do it for fun, and because I like it."
But fisherman Tony Falcon, also of Paterson, said his stepfather occasionally eats fish from the Passaic. He said his stepfather isn't worried about the contaminants; he is originally from Peru and often fished and consumed seafood in his native country, where he believed the water was even more degraded.
"In their country, Peru, the water's worse," Falcon said as he cast out his fishing line. "But they do it anyway."
Environmental officials cite cultural traditions and the economy as some of the reasons why people are continuing to consume fish and shellfish from the river, which is laced with dioxin, PCBs and mercury, among other pollutants. The state Department of Environmental Protection says that over time, people who eat fish and shellfish from the Passaic River increase their likelihood of developing cancer. Children and pregnant women are particularly vulnerable.
"Especially in a tougher economic time, there are people who rely on fish and shellfish for sustenance," said David Kluesner, spokesman for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Region 2. "There are [also] cultural practices in place."
Lawrence Ragonese, a DEP spokesman, noted that fishing may be a way of life in the angler's ethnic group. They may not understand the hazard associated with eating seafood from the lower Passaic. And language barriers can be a problem as well in North Jersey's multilingual communities.
"There are some cultural issues that are difficult for us to deal with in terms of getting the word out," Ragonese said.
Shellfish, specifically blue crab, can be especially dangerous, because they spend their lives in the river sediment, where these chemicals are concentrated.
"We do know that the levels of dioxins, especially in blue crabs, are very high," Kluesner said, adding, "They're going to be living there — they're going to be filtering large amounts of contaminants."
Mercury, which collects in fish's muscle tissue and can cause neurological damage, can concentrate in fish, meaning that there could be 10 times the amount of heavy metal in the food chain than there is in the river water. Dioxin and PCBs can "bioaccumulate," meaning that larger fish, like striped bass, contain higher levels of the chemical because they eat already-contaminated smaller fish.
In terms of enforcement, people caught crabbing on the lower Passaic, for example, can face a fine. But state Department of Environmental Protection staff said they're using other methods besides enforcement — such as visiting schools, posting signs near the river, partnering with fishing and community groups and even a public service announcement from U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez — to warn the public about the dangers posed by a tainted catch.
But the economic downturn, atop all other factors, hasn't helped such efforts, and state officials know that means they have to stay vigilant that residents may be turning to the lower Passaic River as a free source of protein.
"With the tough economy," said Kluesner, "there is even more of a concern that people are eating fish and shellfish they shouldn't be eating."

For most people who throw a baited hook into the polluted lower Passaic River, it's a given that eating what you catch is both illegal and really bad for you.
http://media.northjersey.com/images/300*231/0825L_L1FISHBAN.jpg (http://media.northjersey.com/images/0825L_L1FISHBAN.jpg) JENNIFER H. CUNNINGHAM/STAFF
Tony Falcon holding a fish he caught in the lower Passaic River in Paterson. Such fish are often contaminated.


But state and federal officials say there are still those who — for economic or cultural reasons — shrug off the danger posed by the brew of industrial chemicals lurking in the 17-mile tidal stretch between the Dundee Dam at Garfield and Clifton down to Newark Bay. And so, despite a nearly 30-year ban on consuming fish and shellfish from the lower Passaic, there's no letting down their guard, or their warning efforts.
"It's been on our radar for many years," said Dr. Gary Buchanan, manager of the office of science at the state Department of Environmental Protection. "It's been a big focus of a lot of outreach efforts. We put tremendous resources into getting the message out."
The message has gotten through to most: Buchanan said five years ago the state surveyed anglers and found that the number eating the tainted seafood had gone down. But still, almost half of those who fish the Newark Bay Complex — which also includes Newark Bay, Kill Van Kull, Arthur Kill and the Hackensack River — consume their catch, according to the 2005 survey by the state Department of Environmental Protection, the most recent available.
Buchanan acknowledged that even today, contaminated seafood like blue crab, catfish and carp still is finding its way onto family dinner tables.
"You can't be there seven days a week, 365 days a year," he said. "But we try to get the word out."
At the Passaic River banks at Westside Park in Paterson on a recent sunny afternoon, anglers cast their lines out into the waterway, which was choked in some spots by algae blooms and fallen tree branches. Nearly all surveyed said they do not consume the fish they catch and release them after they're caught.
"I just come out here to clear my head," Allie Wimberly of Paterson said of why she enjoys fishing. Wimberly said she is from the South, where fishing is a social norm in some communities. "I don't keep anything from out of there. The water's dirty. I do it for fun, and because I like it."
But fisherman Tony Falcon, also of Paterson, said his stepfather occasionally eats fish from the Passaic. He said his stepfather isn't worried about the contaminants; he is originally from Peru and often fished and consumed seafood in his native country, where he believed the water was even more degraded.
"In their country, Peru, the water's worse," Falcon said as he cast out his fishing line. "But they do it anyway."
Environmental officials cite cultural traditions and the economy as some of the reasons why people are continuing to consume fish and shellfish from the river, which is laced with dioxin, PCBs and mercury, among other pollutants. The state Department of Environmental Protection says that over time, people who eat fish and shellfish from the Passaic River increase their likelihood of developing cancer. Children and pregnant women are particularly vulnerable.
"Especially in a tougher economic time, there are people who rely on fish and shellfish for sustenance," said David Kluesner, spokesman for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Region 2. "There are [also] cultural practices in place."
Lawrence Ragonese, a DEP spokesman, noted that fishing may be a way of life in the angler's ethnic group. They may not understand the hazard associated with eating seafood from the lower Passaic. And language barriers can be a problem as well in North Jersey's multilingual communities.
"There are some cultural issues that are difficult for us to deal with in terms of getting the word out," Ragonese said.
Shellfish, specifically blue crab, can be especially dangerous, because they spend their lives in the river sediment, where these chemicals are concentrated.
"We do know that the levels of dioxins, especially in blue crabs, are very high," Kluesner said, adding, "They're going to be living there — they're going to be filtering large amounts of contaminants."
Mercury, which collects in fish's muscle tissue and can cause neurological damage, can concentrate in fish, meaning that there could be 10 times the amount of heavy metal in the food chain than there is in the river water. Dioxin and PCBs can "bioaccumulate," meaning that larger fish, like striped bass, contain higher levels of the chemical because they eat already-contaminated smaller fish.
In terms of enforcement, people caught crabbing on the lower Passaic, for example, can face a fine. But state Department of Environmental Protection staff said they're using other methods besides enforcement — such as visiting schools, posting signs near the river, partnering with fishing and community groups and even a public service announcement from U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez — to warn the public about the dangers posed by a tainted catch.
But the economic downturn, atop all other factors, hasn't helped such efforts, and state officials know that means they have to stay vigilant that residents may be turning to the lower Passaic River as a free source of protein.
"With the tough economy," said Kluesner, "there is even more of a concern that people are eating fish and shellfish they shouldn't be eating."


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DarkSkies
08-26-2010, 08:09 PM
Here's a DEP release from 2005. The contamination on the bottom of some of the industrial rivers is worse than most people could ever imagine.

The most reasonable path in many of these situations is to put out the advisories and try to focus the budget on making people aware of the dangers of eating the fish.

Cleanups in some of these areas could cost hundreds of millions $$, and you can never be assured you'll get all the toxins from a river once you start dredging.

Anyway, feel free to pass this advisory along as well.


http://www.state.nj.us/dep/newsrel/2005/05_0134.htm

"Dioxin concentrations in Passaic River fish and crabs are among the highest reported in the world and present an imminent and substantial danger to the public and wildlife.

As a result of the dioxin released by Occidental Chemical Corporation, the state has been forced to impose fishing and crabbing bans in the Passaic River for more than 20 years. Despite the state's ongoing efforts to alert the public of the dangers of eating these fish and crab, New Jersey residents are still catching and consuming them."

Pebbles
08-26-2010, 09:16 PM
Call me stupid but I always thought that as the fish swims around its system gets cleaned as it travels through different waters.:don't know why:

DarkSkies
08-05-2012, 10:22 AM
^^ That's a great point Pebbles. Sorry I didn't see this till now. For bass and other fish, that's partially true. However PCBs can and do accumulate in the fatty tissues of bass and other fish that feed from the bottom of the water column.

You are not alone in this belief.
I have a friend I talk to all the time.

He used to be a commercial fishermen before he wised up and got into a better line of work.
He used to crab and clam in a lot of areas and knows about the toxic issues.

His feeling about striped bass, is that he will not eat any that are caught in the NY Bight area, Breezy Point to Sandy Hook.
He tells me he feels they are "dirty".
Meanwhile, that fish could have been in Maryland just 3 weeks prior to that. And after the fish are done in the Hudson they continue the migrational path. How do you know that fish you caught at Montauk,, weren't in the "dirty NY Bight" 3 weeks prior to that?....:HappyWave:


You don't, and can't know that, unless the fish is tagged.
My friend is pretty intelligent, and we are able to have some great discussions as we sit there and hypothesize about where and when the bodies of fish will be moving....he's usually right 90% of the time.
Yet, his stubbornness to not eat fish from the NY Bight, dspite the fact that they are migrators, still persists in his head.....

This is one of the things that makes this world a great place to live in...the differences of opinion that we all have...:thumbsup:

DarkSkies
08-05-2012, 10:27 AM
My comments above were chiefly about striped bass.

While there is a PCB danger as explained., it is not as great as the danger from crabs and small fish that spend their lives in certain areas, such as the NY Bight.

This area contains areas of sediment that will never be "clean". The toxic metals and solids in the bottom sediment find their way into the meat of every creature that eats off the bottom there.


The following is yet another in a series of press releases.
Sent in by Finchaser, thanks. :HappyWave:
ery important stuff for the folks who live in those areas.

Some don't want to accept it, but it is the truth - eating large amounts of the species they described, from these areas, can hurt you.

Thanks for reading, folks.
Feel free to pass this along to anyone you feel could benefit.....




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IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 1, 2012

CONTACT: Bob Considine (609) 984-1795
Lawrence Ragonese (609) 292-2994
Lawrence Hajna (609) 984-1795
Donna Leusner (609) 984-7160 (DOH)


DEP ISSUES REMINDER ABOUT BAN ON BLUE CLAW CRABBING

(12/P88) TRENTON - As part of a coordinated multi-language community education effort taking place this week, the Department of Environmental Protection is reminding residents that harvesting blue claw crabs from the waters of the Lower Passaic River and Newark Bay is dangerous and prohibited.

Multiple studies show crabs from those waters continue to have harmful levels of cancer-causing dioxin and polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), as well as other contaminants, including mercury. The DEP, along with several community groups and municipalities in the Lower Passaic and Newark Bay region, are continuing to notify area residents of the negative health effects of crabbing in those waters.

"It is very important that people observe the ban on crabbing in this area and not eat the crabs from these waters," said DEP Commissioner Bob Martin. "This is a matter of public health and safety for area residents. Clean waters in New Jersey are in abundance and we strongly recommend people go to those places for healthy fishing and crabbing."

While some crabs may appear healthy, contaminants found in blue claw crabs and some fish pulled from these waters can be harmful to fetuses and infants. Women of child-bearing years, pregnant women and nursing mothers, in particular, are urged not to ingest these crabs from this region. Children are also at risk of developmental and neurological problems if these crabs are eaten.

"There is no way to prepare crabs from these waters to make them safe for consumption,'' said Health Commissioner Mary E. O'Dowd

Persons who violate the crabbing ban in the Lower Passaic and Newark Bay are subject to fines ranging from $300 to $3,000 for a first offense.

The blue claw crab, a bottom feeder and dweller that absorbs contaminants in sediments, has become more abundant in the Passaic River and Newark Bay complex due to the prohibition on commercial crabbing. This increased size and abundance has made crabs even more attractive to harvest for some people.
To inform residents of risks of eating blue claw crabs pulled from the Lower Passaic River and Newark Bay aquatic complex, the DEP is working with the State Department of Health (DOH), local partners, and officials of 44 municipalities and 6 counties -- Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Middlesex, Union and Passaic - affected by this issue.

DOH has a new brochure entitled, "Got Your Claws in New Jersey Blue Crab?" that is available in English and Spanish, which advises consumers on crab consumption from these waters and how it can cause serious illness. For more information and a look at the new brochure, visit http://www.state.nj.us/health/foodanddrugsafety/ssp.shtml.
The region in question is a highly industrialized urban area that includes Newark Bay, the Arthur Kill and Kill Van Kull, and the tidal portions of the Hackensack, Passaic, Elizabeth, and Rahway rivers.

In 2005, the DEP and State Attorney General's Office filed a lawsuit against the companies responsible for the intentional discharge of dioxins into the Lower Passaic River. At that time, dioxin concentrations in Passaic River crabs and fish were among the highest in the world.

In March, the first stage of a two-phase project under direction of the federal Environmental Protection Agency to remove dioxin-contaminated and cancer-causing sediments from a small portion of the lower Passaic River commenced. Responsible parties have now removed about 40,000 cubic yards of dioxin-contaminated sediments from a segment of the river in Newark. The second phase calls for the removal of about 160,000 cubic yards of sediment from the same section of river.

For more information on the blue claw crab ban, including Spanish and Portuguese language information, visit: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dsr/crab-outreach/alert-english.htm

For a full listing of marine fish advisories for Newark Bay and the Lower Passaic River, visit: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dsr/fishadvisories/statewide.htm#newark

To see a list of fish consumption advisories in New Jersey, visit: www.FishSmartEatSmartNJ.org (http://www.fishsmarteatsmartnj.org/)