HELP needed NJ SW Registry Alert Vote on Mon Dec 20, 2010

[finchaser]

Recreational Fishing Alliance (NJ) Contact: Jim Hutchinson, Jr. / 888-564-6732
For Immediate Release December 14, 2010

FREE ANGLER REGISTRY BILL CLEARS NEW HURDLE
Budget Committee Sends S1122/A823 For Full Senate Vote As Early As 12/20


December 14, 2010 - This morning in Committee Room 4 on the 1st floor of the State House Annex in Trenton, the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee voted unanimously to send S1122 (and its Assembly companion bill A823) to the Senate for a full vote. According to the Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA), the committee's vote today means the Senate could vote on New Jersey's saltwater registry bill as early as December 20.

According RFA Executive Director Jim Donofrio who testified before the committee in support of the legislation, all eleven Senate committee members who heard statements today from both sides easlily saw the fiscal benefits of the legislation and found complete consensus with regard to the merits of the bills.

"The legislators who have supported the free registry have made it very clear that there's no place for a saltwater fee in New Jersey," Donofrio said. "It's quite obvious that the Senators and Assembly representatives from various committees are in unanimous consent that a free saltwater registry is the way to move forward at this time, and we're very thankful for the democratic process," he added.

Sponsored by Sen. Jeff Van Drew (D-Cape May) and Sen. Jennifer Beck (R-Red Bank), S1122 would require the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to maintain a free annual saltwater registry program to meet the new federal mandate for data collection, allowing New Jersey's coastal fishermen to avoid paying a $15 federal registration fee beginning January 1. The bill was approved unanimously in the Senate Environment Committee last week.

An Assembly version of the legislation (A823) has already passed (54-16) which would allow the state to apply for exempted state designation from the federal registration requirement. Sponsored by Assembly representatives Nelson Albano (D-Cape May), Matt Milam (D-Cape May), John Amodeo (R-Northfield), Celeste Riley (D-Bridgeton), Paul Moriarty (D-Turnersville), Scott T. Rumana (R-Wayne) and Gilbert Wilson (D-Audubon), A823 was also unanimously approved by the Assembly Environment Committee.

Donofrio said Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee Chairman Sen. Paul Sarlo (D-Wood-Ridge) deserved thanks for working in bipartisan fashion to get the bill through the committee and on to the Senate for a vote. "Of course, we have to thank Sen. Van Drew for the heavy lifting required to move this legislation, he's been right on message and delivers it from his heart."

Donofrio said that several New Jersey organizations showed up in support of S1122 last week when the bill was heard before the Senate Environment Committee, as he praised representatives from RFA-NJ, United Boatmen, Marine Trades Association (MTA), Berkley Striper Club, Hi-Mar Striper Club, Village Harbor Fishing Club, the Fish Hawks, Forked River Tuna Club, New Jersey Beach Buggy Association, and NJSaltwaterFisherman.com for turning out in Trenton for last week's hearing. "There have been a few groups who've openly supported an administrative fee to implement this registry, but that's not been an option which was ever presented to our community," Donofrio said.

"Our elected officials have heard from both sides, and now that it's been unanimously approved in committee after committee and overwhelming supported by the state Assembly, it's time to get see this registry law put into effect as soon as possible so that we get our community back together to discuss the real problems impacting our marine fisheries," Donofrio said.

"Now it's up to Senate President Sweeney to get this vote onto the floor of the Senate for a vote, and then on to the Governor to sign this bill into law," Donofrio said.

To hear recorded testimony on S1122 from last week's Senate Environment Committee Hearing, including Sen. Van Drew's advocacy on behalf of New Jersey anglers and coastal busineeses, visit http://rmserver.njleg.state.nj.us/internet/2010/SEN/1209-1000AM-M0-1.wma (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=hclmspcab&et=1104077796462&s=10015&e=001eOivWHs4t3DRtMBizF9f6-gmLuFBVoKP_KkYHWKHxU8Yj_8iPzOhyfBCU2ttwr4oOT7KuZPM ythLXbXfG3MDwARRUXk4KMEW3jFmVLz8F5Pm1h2ENnomw8f7i9 sKLEA3_V-wVWUKVTWdXwneAmdYbYiGrYoOkunXsgFxk5-iQqgTUfyr7NyWpyJEsDkyZP0P)

You can also access the testimony from today's Senate Budget and Apporopriations Committee hearing at http://rmserver.njleg.state.nj.us/internet/2010/SBA/1214-1000AM-M0-1.wma (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=hclmspcab&et=1104077796462&s=10015&e=001eOivWHs4t3D6rBccF9TBeNQfCSWMbdF9FSIbzxBdntyQy 4CAOgKmdw0gNkzdzAxGtZtY_bXuZrHGuNeS7XHhow8HQ7CpKY5 yRd9MDEgk4E_26sOM33_sQU64ccwhFFcsKLYKTr0n_Snj770cg yNT8qV1lgji8Kveeakq4lmiZCo9oyr3nwc6Jm-Sie2_AthT)

[rip316]

Thanks for posting Fin. I have to call and take care of my registry soon. I have a habit of getting busy and forgetting things.

[finchaser]

Thanks for posting Fin. I have to call and take care of my registry soon. I have a habit of getting busy and forgetting things.

If this passes you do not need to register for the Federal, all NJ residents would be exempt.

[storminsteve]

Sens Jeff Van Drew and Sen Jennifer Beck, remember them on election day.:clapping::clapping:

Sen Bob Smith, remember that ****** too. :2flip:

[bababooey]

It's still quite a ways from becoming a law, folks. Contact the legislator in your district and tell him or her you support it.

[rip316]

Someone told me that If I register before Dec. 30th the reg. is free. I understand about the free reg. IF the law is passed but if it doesn't pass and if I wait then I will have to pay. I am right on with this so far or am I missing something?

[finchaser]

Someone told me that If I register before Dec. 30th the reg. is free. I understand about the free reg. IF the law is passed but if it doesn't pass and if I wait then I will have to pay. I am right on with this so far or am I missing something?


Right NJ has to pass it before 2011

[voyager35]

Call or e-mail your reps. I did.

[buckethead]

Hopefully this will pass. Is there a main place to get the contact info of the reps? I want to do my part.

[finchaser]

nal Fishing Alliance (NJ) Contact: Jim Hutchinson, Jr. / 888-564-6732

For Immediate Release December 16, 2010


NEW JERSEY SENATE TO VOTE ON SALTWATER REGISTRY BILL


S1122/A823 To Be Heard In Trenton On Monday, December 20th






On Monday, December 20th, the New Jersey Senate will vote on S1122/A823, a program which would require the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to maintain a free annual saltwater registry program to meet the new federal mandate for data collection.


Passage of S1122/A823 into law would allow the state to apply for exempted state designation from the federal registration requirement, helping New Jersey coastal anglers avoid having to pay a $15 federal fee.


Assembly Bill A823 passed unanimously from the Assembly Environment Committee in early March. It then passed in the full Assembly by a 56-16 vote in favor on March 22. The Senate companion bill S1122 has also been approved by both the Senate Environment Committee (4-0) and the Senate Budget & Appropriations Committee (11-0) and awaits action by the full New Jersey Senate, which is now scheduled for Monday, December 20th.


If you're a supporter of the saltwater registry legislation now set for a full Senate vote on Monday, it's time for you to act once again. New Jersey has the opportunity to prevent anglers from paying a $15 fee - which in turn could also cause significant socioeconomic harm to the marine industry - simply by establishing a saltwater angler registry to collect anglers' name and contact information as required by federal law.


The Recreational Fishing Alliance's New Jersey Chapter (RFA-NJ) has made it simple by creating a simple fax form for you to use. Click here to download the fax document (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=hclmspcab&et=1104089835522&s=10015&e=0017BPVnk3LV-52HVGenwoK65gvf9w7ULQPKsZ8zv1A9nSO-XC1YQbNnElQOv2Kop81_v2cihQpFfQLLtlvhgHLU-JwfrrLxUKI0eh2Wq75qIMEWYjtwyNsVG8NFJ9bw7K6KqDZ_NjW n2GtG2xSGqrOiv8WJRGHD3mn), find the contact information for your state senator from the list below, and make sure your legislator receives the fax first thing on Friday morning!


RFA and the RFA-NJ are proud of its members for helping rallying the troops in support of this important legislation. Your phone calls, faxes and emails helped push the political process and ensured that the collective voice of hundreds of thousands of New Jersey saltwater anglers was heard in Trenton. You've helped clear the biggest hurdles along the way, but now it's time for a sprint to the finish line.


Tell your Senator to please vote yes on S1122/A823 this Monday, December 20th, and be sure to thank him/her for support of New Jersey's coastal fishing community!


Click here (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=hclmspcab&et=1104089835522&s=10015&e=0017BPVnk3LV-52HVGenwoK65gvf9w7ULQPKsZ8zv1A9nSO-XC1YQbNnElQOv2Kop81_v2cihQpFfQLLtlvhgHLU-JwfrrLxUKI0eh2Wq75qIMEWYjtwyNsVG8NFJ9bw7K6KqDZ_NjW n2GtG2xSGqrOiv8WJRGHD3mn) to download the fax document - and look for your Senator's fax number in the list below. Don't know who your New Jersey state Senator is? Visit New Jersey's interactive map of legislative districts by clicking here (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=hclmspcab&et=1104089835522&s=10015&e=0017BPVnk3LV-7ATEvZgMwqExi2O53V8SZZiWLxZflKOHqrPUwd9wHnUzvzDmSI DaqRgKWPsJYvRWHArBSVfJDh_dZG0MAee4wfAoy9QSV1fWDnx5 8ynIWNX2f8IcYBqPSkMX2VyACNkP8j1WIVKNUn-ARkGOYieW3r).


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S1122/A823 To Be Heard In Trenton On Monday, December 20th

























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[finchaser]

S1122/A823 To Be Heard In Trenton On Monday, December 20th!!



Contact Info




Senator
Paul A. Sarlo (D)
(Deputy Majority Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
207 Hackensack St.
2nd Floor
Wood-Ridge, NJ 07075

PHONE NUMBER:
(201) 804-8118
Fax# 201-804-8644



Senator
Brian P. Stack (D)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESSES:
5801 Palisade Ave.
West New York, NJ 07093

301 45th St.
1st Floor
Union City, NJ 07087

PHONE NUMBERS:
(201) 861-5091 (West New York)
(201) 558-7926 (Union City)

Fax# 201-861-5094



Senator
James Beach (D)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
1309 Route 70 West
Cherry Hill, NJ 08002

PHONE NUMBER:
(856) 429-1572

Fax # 856-429-1575


Senator
Anthony R. Bucco (R)
(Republican Budget Officer)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
75 Bloomfield Ave.
Suite 302
3rd Floor
Denville, NJ 07834

PHONE NUMBER:
(973) 627-9700
Fax#973-627-0131


Senator
Barbara Buono (D)
(Majority Leader / Conference Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
Two Lincoln Highway
Suite 401
Edison, NJ 08820

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 205-1372

FAX NUMBER:
(732) 205-1375


Senator
Sandra B. Cunningham (D)
(Majority Whip)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
1738 Kennedy Blvd.
Jersey City, NJ 07305

PHONE NUMBER:
(201) 451-5100

FAX NUMBER:
(201) 451-0867


Senator
Michael J. Doherty (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
127 Belvidere Ave.
2nd Floor
Washington, NJ 07882

PHONE NUMBER:
(908) 835-0552

FAX NUMBER:
(908) 835-8570


Senator
Linda R. Greenstein (D)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
7 Centre Dr.
Suite 2
Monroe, NJ 08831-1565

PHONE NUMBER:
(609) 395-9911

FAX NUMBER:
(609) 395-9032


Senator
Kevin J. O'Toole (R)
(Minority Whip)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
155 Route 46 West
Suite 108
Wayne, NJ 07470

PHONE NUMBER:
(973) 237-1360

FAX NUMBER:
(973) 237-1364


Senator
Steven V. Oroho (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESSES:
115 Demarest Rd.
Suite 2B
Sparta, NJ 07871

227 Route 206
Bldg. 1
Suite 15
Flanders, NJ 07836

PHONE NUMBERS:
(973) 300-0200 (Sparta)
(973) 584-4670 (Flanders)
Fax#973-300-1744




Senator
Joseph Pennacchio (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
330 Changebridge Rd.
Suite 102
Pine Brook, NJ 07058

PHONE NUMBER:
(973) 227-4012

Fax
Fax# 973-227-4945


Senator
M. Teresa Ruiz (D)
(Assistant Majority Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
166 Bloomfield Ave.
Newark, NJ 07104

PHONE NUMBER:
(973) 484-1000
Fax#973-484-1008


Senator
Jeff Van Drew (D)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESSES:
21 North Main St.
Cape May Court House, NJ 08210

1124 North High St.
Millville, NJ 08332

1028 East Landis Ave.
Vineland, NJ 08360

PHONE NUMBERS:
(609) 465-0700 (Cape May Court House)
(856) 765-0891 (Millville)
(856) 696-7109 (Vineland)
(609) 926-3779 (Somers Point)

FAX NUMBER:
(609) 465-4578 (Cape May Court House)


Senator
Bob Smith (D)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
216 Stelton Rd.
Suite E-5
Piscataway, NJ 08854

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 752-0770
Fax#732-752-1590


Senator
Robert M. Gordon (D)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
14-25 Plaza Rd.
P.O. Box 398
Fair Lawn, NJ 07410

PHONE NUMBER:
(201) 703-9779
Fax#201-703-8127



Senator
Christopher "Kip" Bateman (R)
(Deputy Conference Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
36 East Main St.
Somerville, NJ 08876

PHONE NUMBER:
(908) 526-3600
Fax#908-707-4578


Senator
Jennifer Beck (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
32 Monmouth St.
3rd Floor
Red Bank, NJ 07701

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 933-1591
Fax#732-933-1598


Senator
Diane B. Allen (R)
(Deputy Minority Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
11 West Broad St.
Burlington, NJ 08016

PHONE NUMBER:
(609) 239-2800
Fax#609-239-2673


Senator
Dawn Marie Addiego (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
32A North Main St.
Medford, NJ 08055

PHONE NUMBER:
(609) 654-1498
Fax# 609-654-4791


Senator
Christopher J. Connors (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
620 West Lacey Rd.
Forked River, NJ 08731

PHONE NUMBER:
(609) 693-6700
Fax#609-693-2469



Senator
Andrew R. Ciesla (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
852 Highway 70
Brick, NJ 08724

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 840-9028
Fax#732-840-9757



Senator
Sean T. Kean (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
1955 Highway 34
Bldg. 2A
Wall Township, NJ 07719

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 974-0400
Fax#732-974-2564


Senator
Joseph M. Kyrillos Jr. (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
1715 Highway 35
Suite 303
Middletown, NJ 07748

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 671-3206
Fax#732-706-9140


Senator
Thomas H. Kean Jr. (R)
(Minority Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESSES:
425 North Ave. East
Suite C
Westfield, NJ 07090

57 Union Place
Suite 310
Summit, NJ 07901

251 North Ave. West
2nd Floor
Westfield, NJ 07090

PHONE NUMBERS:
(908) 232-3673 (Westfield)
(908) 918-0414 (Summit)
(908) 232-2073 (Westfield)

FAX NUMBER:
(908) 232-3345 (Westfield)


Senator
Robert W. Singer (R)
(Conference Leader)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
2110 W. County Line Rd.
Jackson, NJ 08527

PHONE NUMBER:
(732) 901-0702
Fax#732-901-0587


Senator
Gerald Cardinale (R)

DISTRICT OFFICE ADDRESS:
350 Madison Ave.
Cresskill, NJ 07626





S1122/A823 To Be Heard In Trenton On Monday, December 20th!!

[DarkSkies]

Thanks Fin! :HappyWave:

[finchaser]

Thanks Fin! :HappyWave:

Your welcome, pretty pathetic 2 replies and 6 views, then they will be the first to bit-h when they have to pay. This kind of stuff on this site is a total waste of my time and effort.

[storminsteve]

Just a thought, finchaser. There seem to be quite a few registry threads already on this site. I did a search. I don't mean any disrespect but when there are a lot of different posts on the same subject on any internet site, I as the user go into a state where my eyes gloss over and sometimes I tend to skip over things like that. Maybe other members feel the same way, I don't know.

In any case, it was good that you, that guy njdiver, gjb, cardoc, and others posted this stuff. I might have never known about it if you didn't. And because of your collective posts, I usually try to do whatever it suggests. In this latest case I went and registered early, so you saved me the $15 dollars that I would have had to pay.
For that I would gladly buy you a beer sometime that you're not so grouchy :plastered: (no disrespect intended, so I hope you don't take offense at it):scared: :HappyWave:

It might be that some of us are sick of seeing these posts. I'm not trying to tell Dark what to do, but on other sites when you have the same threads, they are sometimes combined. That might make it better, but then it would get less exposure in different forums. I guess it's up to dark what he wants to do.

Here are the threads I found doing a search on the registry.


http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7340-HELP-NJ-Registry-Alert&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7288-An-Obama-quot-gift-quot-your-help-is-needed-for-the-NJ-fishing-license&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7295-save-15-so-who-got-the-saltwater-card-early&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7334-NJ-Registry&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7301-National-Saltwater-Angler-Registry-Program&highlight=nj+registry

[fishinmission78]

It might be that some of us are sick of seeing these posts.

Count me in that group. OK if you want to put them up. If someone makes it easy for me to do it, I will send an e-mail or sign any petition you guys come up with. I eventually feel we will have less people fishing because the striper fishing is heading in the toilet. As for the regulations I don't give a rat's *** about registry, noaa or any of that other crap. I just want to fish. I will get my license if you have to have it for NJ. If I am fishing one day and the game wardens come up to me and I forgot my license, do you think I will tell them that? No I will just say "no speaka da english" and they will have to let me slide. That's how I feel about that, there are 2 sets of rules, one for us, another for the immigrants who pretend to be stupid or can't understand english. Well I can play that game too, I am sick of the wetbacks getting over, getting benefits, getting free hospital care when the rest of us are barely scraping by.
So you're telling me I HAVE to care whether we get a license in NJ or not, or whether we pay for it?:ROFLMAO Get real.
Sorry, pal, I stopped caring about this state a long time ago when I realized they rob us with petty taxes and fees from the time we are 18 until the time we die.

[clamchucker]

Thanks for posting that finchaser. In my view it is better to give the monies to our state when they do start charging us. Some may say it is not fair. When you visit Florida to fish, do you complain about the state SW license fee, or do you folks pay it and go fishing. We are taxed everywhere in this state. We also have good economic opportunities by living here. If I ran the government I would only charge the sportsmen the cost of administering the licenses. If any additional money came in I would ensure it would go right back out to sportsmen programs. Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way, in this corrupt state.

[finchaser]

Just a thought, finchaser. There seem to be quite a few registry threads already on this site. I did a search. I don't mean any disrespect but when there are a lot of different posts on the same subject on any internet site, I as the user go into a state where my eyes gloss over and sometimes I tend to skip over things like that. Maybe other members feel the same way, I don't know.

In any case, it was good that you, that guy njdiver, gjb, cardoc, and others posted this stuff. I might have never known about it if you didn't. And because of your collective posts, I usually try to do whatever it suggests. In this latest case I went and registered early, so you saved me the $15 dollars that I would have had to pay.
For that I would gladly buy you a beer sometime that you're not so grouchy :plastered: (no disrespect intended, so I hope you don't take offense at it):scared: :HappyWave:

It might be that some of us are sick of seeing these posts. I'm not trying to tell Dark what to do, but on other sites when you have the same threads, they are sometimes combined. That might make it better, but then it would get less exposure in different forums. I guess it's up to dark what he wants to do.

Here are the threads I found doing a search on the registry.


http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7340-HELP-NJ-Registry-Alert&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7288-An-Obama-quot-gift-quot-your-help-is-needed-for-the-NJ-fishing-license&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7295-save-15-so-who-got-the-saltwater-card-early&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7334-NJ-Registry&highlight=nj+registry

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?7301-National-Saltwater-Angler-Registry-Program&highlight=nj+registry

I know there are afew but this one is importtant as the vote is monday. L:ook forward to the beer any time, and thanks for your commets and support. No offense taken I love to bust balls, and don't mind getting mine broken all in fun
I agree with you that they should be combined but Dark's too busy playing with birds and things like west wind wally

[cowherder]

Thank you for the heads up!

[lostatsea]

I will be placing a call to my Senator early Monday morning, thanks for the numbers.

[captnemo]

Yes guys a phone call of support or a quick fax doesn't take that long. Why let the feds have the money?

[DarkSkies]

I'm not trying to tell Dark what to do, but on other sites when you have the same threads, they are sometimes combined. That might make it better, but then it would get less exposure in different forums. I guess it's up to dark what he wants to do.

Exactly Steve. The multiple thread on one subject thing is an irritating one. I try my best to balance the need to condense those things vs the need to get the exposure out there. Some people only look at certain forums.


For the rest of ya's, here's some helpful advice...
1. When members first log in, there is a "What's new" tab on the top line of your page, near the middle. Clicking on that will allow you to see the new posts since you've last visited here. Fast, easy and convenient. It's one of the features in the new version that everyone should know about. :thumbsup:

2. Once you've logged in and are browsing the site, you can always click on the additional feature line that opens up at the top of the page and contains the following options. Clicking "New Posts" enables you to see the new posts since you last posted or checked the forums.

New Posts (http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/search.php?do=getnew&contenttype=vBForum_Post) Private Messages (http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/private.php) FAQ (http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/faq.php) Calendar (http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/calendar.php) Community (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E://)



As for the regulations I don't give a rat's *** about registry, noaa or any of that other crap. I just want to fish.

I hear ya Fnm. Some of my friends who aren't into the internet at all say the same thing, they just want to fish. Many fishermen can't be bothered with the politics side. Some folks I know will be overjoyed if there is ever another moratorium. They're sick and tired of the selfishness, greed, and ego out there spurred on by internet and tackle shop boasting.

However, back to reality...we need to stand up for ourselves, or at least let our elected representatives know where we stand. If we don't do that, what the heck did we elect these people for?

I know the system has favoritism, corruption, and is highly manipulated by lobbyists. I've seen all that first-hand. An original tenet of our founding fathers was Gov't "of the people, for the people, and by the people". If we lose sight of that and fail to participate we have no room to gripe, as Finchaser so rightly points out. :learn:









I know there are afew but this one is importtant as the vote is monday...I agree with you that they should be combined but Dark's too busy playing with birds and things like west wind wally

If you agree that they should be combined, then I'm asking you and other folks here to make sure when you post a thread that it isn't posted already somewhere else.

(This isn't always a problem, only when you have an issue that's pushed its way to the forefront of the media and internet sites)

On other well-established forums, members get chastized if they don't first at least make a feeble attempt to use the search key, located in the top right corner.

There is a wealth of information on this site on different subjects, all ya have to do is look for it.

I have been quietly campaigning some of our Sr members to use a "2 to 4" approach when posting here. By that, I'm asking our members to search through previous pages for something that interests them, and they might be able to contribute to. And to try for at least 2 to 4 that they can respond to. This sometimes sparks an interest when people see old or forgotten threads that still have useful meaning.

There are dozens of threads that could interest folks at any one time, but most won't see them if they're buried 10 pages back. If ya can't find even one thread here that interests ya enough to respond, I respectfully submit that maybe you're a little one dimensional and need to open your mind a bit. :rolleyes:

As I said, this place is nothing without the support and interaction of you folks. I'm just the gatekeeper. :)



I've been spending a lot of time behind the scenes, pruning old posts and moving and combining forums. There are no other admins here, only me and Pebbles. The hours are long and the pay and benefits are small, other than the great e-mails of support some of you keep sending me about how much you like the site.

So I thank you for your continued participation.
And Fin, Steve is right... please stop bein so grouchy, we're really trying here with the limited resources we have. :moon: :HappyWave: :kiss:

And for one last time,,,

S1122/A823 To Be Heard In Trenton On Monday, December 20th

[baitstealer]

OK I will tryto help too. Monday I will make a phone call also. thanks finchasr.

[DarkSkies]

Hey people just a quick reminder that today is the vote. Please try to make an early call to your legislator in support of this if you can. This concerns everyone who fishes the salt in NJ.

Fin posted up all the contacts on page 1. Thanks!

[rip316]

Does anyone know how the vote turned out?

[cardoc765]

Recreational Fishing Alliance (NJ)
Contact: Jim Hutchinson, Jr. / 888-564-6732
For Immediate Release
December 20, 2010
RFA-NJ Says S1122/A823 Needs Governor's Signature To Create Angler Registry


December 20, 2010 - The New Jersey Senate today voted unanimously (36-0) in support of legislation requring the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to establish a free recreational saltwater registry to meet federal data collection requirements set by the Magnuson Stevens Act. The bill approved by the Senate (S1122) along with its companion bill (A823) approved by the Assembly on March 22, now needs only the signature of Governor Chris Christie in order to direct the DEP Commissioner to establish and implement a free state registry program for saltwater recreational anglers, modeled on the registry program established by the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS).

In order to fulfill federal exemption requirements, New Jersey would have to implement a similar program for collecting name and contact details of individuals who engage in recreational fishing in state coastal waters out to the Continental Shelf. New Jersey is the last coastal state in the Continental U.S. to address the federal registration requirement, with Maine having recently implemented a similar registration program there. With the Governor's signature, S1122/A823 would allow New Jersey to apply for "exempted state designation from the federal registration requirements" in time to meet new federal fee requirements set to take effect on January 1, 2011.

"It's time for the saltwater anglers of New Jersey to get active one last time in order to see this legislation get past the Governor's desk," said Jim Donofrio, Executive Director of the Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA), who added "our thanks to Sen. President Steve Sweeney for moving this bill to the Senate Floor, and our thanks to the entire Senate for their unanimous and bipartisan support of this legislation."

[cardoc765]

Recreational Fishing Alliance (NJ)
Contact: Jim Hutchinson, Jr. / 888-564-6732
For Immediate Release
December 20, 2010
RFA-NJ Says S1122/A823 Needs Governor's Signature To Create Angler Registry


December 20, 2010 - The New Jersey Senate today voted unanimously (36-0) in support of legislation requring the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to establish a free recreational saltwater registry to meet federal data collection requirements set by the Magnuson Stevens Act. The bill approved by the Senate (S1122) along with its companion bill (A823) approved by the Assembly on March 22, now needs only the signature of Governor Chris Christie in order to direct the DEP Commissioner to establish and implement a free state registry program for saltwater recreational anglers, modeled on the registry program established by the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS).

In order to fulfill federal exemption requirements, New Jersey would have to implement a similar program for collecting name and contact details of individuals who engage in recreational fishing in state coastal waters out to the Continental Shelf. New Jersey is the last coastal state in the Continental U.S. to address the federal registration requirement, with Maine having recently implemented a similar registration program there. With the Governor's signature, S1122/A823 would allow New Jersey to apply for "exempted state designation from the federal registration requirements" in time to meet new federal fee requirements set to take effect on January 1, 2011.

For over 30 years, federal surveyors have called names and numbers at random from coastal phonebooks, a methodology which the National Research Council deemed "fatally flawed" in a report to Congress in 2006. "Magnuson now requires that an angler registry of names and contact numbers be used exclusively by these federal surveyors for contacting anglers on their fishing habits, it's nothing more than an Excel sheet full of contact information," Donofrio said. "RFA has been working hard on this legislation for nearly 4 years, despite growing opposition of late by virtual newcomers to the issues impacting our marine fisheries management."

In recent weeks, New Jersey's coastal anglers have flooded local legislative offices with phone calls, faxes and emails supporting the free registration legislation, an effort which helped spur S1122 through the committee process. A handful of opponents argue that since the bill doesn't have a user fee attached, that there's no way the state can pay for the program, an argument Donofrio says doesn't hold water. "The Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee heard both sides of the debate and voted unanimously to move this bill to a full vote on the Senate floor, and they did so because of compelling arguments made by constituents," Donofrio said. "That debate was already held, and the naysayers were either missing their facts or completely missing in action," he added.


"I know the Federation is pushing a saltwater license that would charge $21.50 for New Jersey residents to fish in coastal waters, and more than $30 a year for our out-of-state visitors, I'm just not sure why NJBBA and JCAA members would continue to support efforts to stop the registry legislation, especially by an organization originally founded and currently run by state conservation officers," said Jim Hutchinson, Jr., RFA's Managing Director. Hutchinson said New Jersey Beach Buggy Association (NJBBA) and the Jersey Coast Anglers Association (JCAA) are the only state saltwater organizations currently represented as Federation board members. "The Federation should stick to their bear hunts and Sunday bowhunting bills and leave saltwater issues to full-time anglers and coastal business owners who truly understand our marine issues," Hutchinson said, adding "it's high time that saltwater anglers made a choice, join RFA and fight to protect your rights as a saltwater angler, or let bureaucratic sympathizers meet and compromise away your rights because of competing interests."

The RFA points out that NMFS' actual registration numbers for New Jersey shows there were 182,067 state residents registered with the federal government to fish coastal waters in 2010, with 63,026 Pennsylvania anglers, a total of 245,093 registered saltwater anglers in New Jersey's coastal region. By comparison, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) estimates there were approximately 413,000 New Jersey state residents who fished coastal waters in 2006, and another 83,000 coming from Pennsylvania, for a total estimated number of saltwater anglers in the neighborhood of 496,000 fishermen. The same USFWS survey ranks New Jersey fifth among coastal states in terms of overall saltwater retail sales, an estimated $643.6 million spent on saltwater tackle alone.

"Based on 7 percent sales tax alone, saltwater anglers contribute $45 million in annual tax revenue here in the state of New Jersey, while an additional 10% excise tax at the federal level results in another $64 million in federal taxes toward the federal Sport Fish Restoration Fund," said Hutchinson. "The US Department of Interior sent New Jersey a check for $3.8 million for 2010 from this excise tax and determined through USFWS numbers that 60% of that money belongs to saltwater fishermen in New Jersey, more than enough to pay for this simple angler registry," Hutchinson said. "We have a new federal mandate and plenty of federal money to pay for it, and that's why these bills moved through the Assembly and Senate Committees without a single 'no' vote," he added.

"This legislation was not supposed to be a method of funding for the state DEP, it was specifically crafted to meet federal reporting requirements as outlined by our federal fisheries law," Donofrio said. "We're seconds away from sudden death, so we need to be careful to not boot the ball here, it would only hurt our coastal anglers and the local businesses that depend on them."

"Get your free registration now from the federal government, but be sure to call the Governor's office at 609-292-6000 and ask respectfully on behalf of New Jersey's coastal fishing community to sign the free registry legislation into law before the December 31 deadline," Donofrio said.

[DarkSkies]

One step forward. :clapping::clapping:

[rip316]

Thanks for posting there Cardoc. Just hope that fat a$$ signs it now.

[cardoc765]

The New Jersey Outdoor Alliance (NJOA) reports the free state registration bill that passed in the Senate just a day earlier isn't quite ready to go to Gov. Christie because a minor amendment in the Senate requires that it must be sent back to the Assembly -- where it had already been approved. That may delay the whole process into the New Year -- and the funding question still hasn't been resolved. The NJOA is concerned about the possible shifting of funds from already cash-strapped wildlife programs to the registry.

As noted here several times, it makes sense to take advantage of the still-free federal registration that applies this month -- but will change to a charge of $15 on Jan.1. Simply visit www.countmyfish.noaa.gov (http://www.countmyfish.noaa.gov/), provide your name, address, phone number, and state you plan to fish in -- and you' won't have anything to worry about until next year.

[cardoc765]

December 21, 2010
Press Release
Belmar, NJ

Yesterday the full Senate voted to pass bill S1122 (free saltwater registry). The bill is sponsored by Sen. Jennifer Beck (R) and Sen. Jeff Van Drew (D), and requires the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to administer a free saltwater registry program to comply with the federal mandate for data collection. The bill was unanimously approved 36-0.

However, apparently a minor amendment made during the Senate session will send the bill back to the Assembly for consideration the first week of January. The amended bill is expected to pass in the Assembly.

The bill does not specify where the funding will originate to cover the cost of the registry. Non-government organizations (NGO) estimate it will cost approximately $600,000 to implement and manage the free registry. But a considerable percentage is likely to go to a company that has the contract to provide the equipment that registers anglers. The balance would go toward registry management at the state level. The cost of the registry is expected to equal, or exceed, the entire state appropriation to the Bureau Marine Fisheries (BMF).

Although there is a reported 600,000 saltwater anglers in New Jersey it is a changing percentage that fish from year-to-year. The DEP recently announced that a $5.00 fee is needed to cover the cost of the free saltwater registry.

Mauro said, "Regardless of the actual numbers we know that the money to implement and manage a registry must come from someplace and interestingly the very same state government that has run up a deficit of $10.7 billion hasn't addressed how the registry will be funded. Chances are that the huge budget deficit will add pressure to raid accounts already underfunded." Mauro continued, "We don't want funds that are used to run natural resources to be ransacked. It's that simple. This unfunded mandate is one more straw added to the weakened backbone of the very things the saltwater registry is designed to provide free access to."

The BMF budget has already been cut to the point where conservation organizations have voiced concerns about the bureau's ability to adhere to federal requirements for fisheries research and management. In the end, an ineffectual BMF could cause fishery closures.

Peter Grimbilas, President, NJOA (CF) said, "You don't get something for nothing so it's wise for anglers to make sure that funds currently used to manage fisheries or other natural resources aren't used for the free registry. When people call the Governor's office (1-609-292-6000) I'd suggest that they also relay that they don't want funding for Bill S1122/A823 "Free Recreational Saltwater Fishing Registry" to come from fishery management or other natural resource accounts."

Since the state of New Jersey has not provided a means to fund the registry, and given the poor state of affairs at BMF, the consensus of the majority of NJOA (CF) council members is that a $2.00 administrative fee is needed to cover the projected costs.

NOTE: It has been incorrectly reported in the press and other venues that the NJOA, Jersey Coast Anglers Association and New Jersey Beach Buggy Association are in favor of a saltwater $21.50 license. The majority of saltwater-only NJOA (CF) council members continue to support a $2.00 administrative fee to cover registry costs.

The NJOA (CF) will continue to provide updates on the status of the free registry.



Anthony P. Mauro, Sr
Chair
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Conservation Foundation
New Jersey Outdoor Alliance Environmental Projects


Join the NJOA, "Help us to help you ensure your outdoor freedoms!"____

[rip316]

They are going to drag this out until after the new year and try to screw everyone. watch. Fat a$$ Christie probably spilled Marinara sauce all over the effin document.

[gjb1969]

WELL I AM GLAD I GOT MY NEW CARD SO IF THEY DO BS THE BILL I AM GOOD WITH MY NOAA CARD THATS WHY I GOT THE NOAA CARD JUST IN CASE WE GET THE SHAFT WE ALL KNOW HOW THINGS GO HERE IN NJ:rolleyes:

[storminsteve]

THATS WHY I GOT THE NOAA CARD JUST IN CASE WE GET THE SHAFT WE ALL KNOW HOW THINGS GO HERE IN NJ:rolleyes:


I got the card too, hedging my bets. Rip, funny comment about Christie even though I think he's been doing a great job so far. He's also the fattest governor we have ever had. Marinara and lasagna, chocolate, cheesecake, donuts, he's so fat he probably has hourly feedings. But still a very strong governor.

[rip316]

I think he is destroying this state. He has put more teachers out of work and plans on doing more of the same this coming year. He is making us cut another $1.4 million dollars out of the district that I work in out of next years budget. The saddest part is, is that it is affecting the kids. More and more of the programs that they are in are getting cut out. I believe in cutbacks if neccesary but this is getting a little out of hand here. jmo.

[lostatsea]

I'm on the fence about Christie, Rip. I didn't vote for him I do see where he is making some needed cuts. For example, not that I want to slam firefighters, cops, or public unions in particular, I do have a real problem with people who work 25 years and retire at 70%salary with full benefits for their families for life. Anyone ever stop to think how much that actually costs the state? Hundreds of millions of dollars.
Fine, you worked for 25 years, you can have your pension. But why not make them pay for medical benefits with thier pension checks? Example, you have a guy who became a cop at 20. He retires at 45. The state has to pay him 70% of his salary for the rest of his life, which could be another 30 years. And to top it off, medical is exttremely expensive. So the state has to comp up with the money, through smart investing of the pension assets, to pay for this whole huge package for 30 years. That's longer than the period of time that he was in the workforce. Just not sustainable in the long run. I applaud Christie for trying to do some thing about that. jmo as well.

As for the SW registry, I am playing it safe and registering with both NOAA and NJ. There are some states that you can get out of paying for the state license if you have a national one, I believe.

[porgy75]

I read somewhere that the NJ registry is not complete. They have to kick it back to the legislature because of the funding and will vote on it in January. Any one know if this is true?

[finchaser]

I'm on the fence about Christie, Rip. I didn't vote for him I do see where he is making some needed cuts. For example, not that I want to slam firefighters, cops, or public unions in particular, I do have a real problem with people who work 25 years and retire at 70%salary with full benefits for their families for life. Anyone ever stop to think how much that actually costs the state? Hundreds of millions of dollars.
Fine, you worked for 25 years, you can have your pension. But why not make them pay for medical benefits with thier pension checks? Example, you have a guy who became a cop at 20. He retires at 45. The state has to pay him 70% of his salary for the rest of his life, which could be another 30 years. And to top it off, medical is exttremely expensive. So the state has to comp up with the money, through smart investing of the pension assets, to pay for this whole huge package for 30 years. That's longer than the period of time that he was in the workforce. Just not sustainable in the long run. I applaud Christie for trying to do some thing about that. jmo as well.

I agree teachers need to join the real world,and give a little if they really want to help the kids, they have had it too good too long the free ride needs to end.There union is causing the cut backs by not cooperating, not the governor even they made something like 13 million last year. Also getting paid for accumulated unused sick days when they retire is crazy. They only work 180 days a year for god sakes in some sectors it would be considered a part time job. I have 3 teachers in my family and all they do is whine and complan how bad they are treated.






Back to the registry
SALTWATER ANGLERS URGED TO REGISTER WITH NOAA
RFA Says There's Time To Register Free Before January Deadline


On November 30th, NOAA announced that the fee for registering with the National Saltwater Angler Registry will be $15 as of January 1, 2011, a change affecting many anglers and spear fishermen in Hawaii, New Jersey, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Anglers from other coastal states are exempted from the federal requirement when they comply with state regulations, as 22 of the nation's 24 coastal states have saltwater angler registries or licenses exempted from the federal requirement because they are providing registry information to the National Saltwater Angler Registry.



"If you have questions about whether this applies to you or not, best thing to do is log on immediately to www.countymyfish.noaa.gov (http://www.countymyfish.noaa.gov/) for details," said Jim Donofrio, Executive Director of the Recreational Fishing Alliance (RFA). "You still have time to register federally at no cost for the next 365 days if you get online and sign up right now," Donofrio said.



According to the RFA, the last state in the continental U.S. to come into compliance with the federal registry requirements will be New Jersey, as recent legislation approved by the Senate to create a saltwater registry is expected to be signed by the governor by January 6th at the earliest. "While the Senate voted unanimously to approve Senate Bill 1122, the Assembly version requires a slight technical amendment to match the amended bill approved by the Senate and now awaiting the governor's signature to make law," Donofrio said.



"It's a minor technicality that sometimes happens when you're working so fast and furiously to get a bill passed before an advancing deadline," Donofrio said. "New Jersey's coastal fishermen should take comfort in knowing that this procedural vote in the Assembly will ensure that longstanding Fish & Game Code specifications are kept intact, to the benefit of saltwater anglers," he added.



According to the RFA, a U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (USFWS) survey estimates the number of resident saltwater anglers in New Jersey at 340,000, with another 155,000 visiting from out of state (496,000 total saltwater anglers). As of December 1, NOAA Fisheries' tallied 182,067 New Jersey resident anglers as having registered under the new federal registry program, another 63,026 registered saltwater anglers from Pennsylvania (a total of 245,093 registered coastal anglers in the region). The same survey also ranked New Jersey 5th in the nation amongst coastal states in terms of overall saltwater retail sales with an estimated $643.6 million spent on saltwater tackle alone, which based on 7% sales tax contributed over $45 million in tax revenue to New Jersey.



"On top of any state sales tax, a 10% federal excise tax is imposed on all fishing tackle sold in America which means New Jersey saltwater fishermen paid somewhere around $65 million in added federal tax into the Sport Fish Restoration Account managed by the U.S. Department of the Interior," said RFA Managing Director Jim Hutchinson, Jr. "New Jersey received more than $3.8 million dollars back from this fund, and the USFWS estimates that 60% of that money or over $2.3 million was to have been allocated to state saltwater programs," added Hutchinson, more than enough he said to cover the cost of the required registry program.



"There have been a lot of crazy numbers thrown around by folks who've recently decided to get involved in fisheries management as a sidelight, but these numbers really don't add up when it comes to our coastal fishing and boating businesses and the individuals they depend on," Donofrio said.



Donofrio said more accurate accounting numbers from the New Jersey Marine Trades Association (MTA) show New Jersey's recreational boaters spent approximately $2.1 billion during the 2006 survey period, of which $1.1 billion were in trip-related expenditures and $938 million were in annual boating purchases. After accounting for leakages to other states' economies (e.g. through the purchase of goods manufactured in another state) in-state recreational boating contributed $1.8 billion to New Jersey's economy in 2006. MTA results show that 56% of respondents indicated that fishing is their primary purpose for boating.



The Department of Environmental Protection recently testified before two different Senate committees that would require $5 apiece from anglers to administer the registration requirements outlined in S1122/A823, a figure that Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee members found strange. "The basis of the testimony was that $1.01 by contract goes to a third-party vendor to administrate the actual registry, while the other $4 just goes to salaries and stuff," Hutchinson said. "The angling public deserves to hear the real numbers here, not the rhetoric."



By using both the recent NOAA Fisheries registration data for New Jersey and Pennsylvania registrations (245,093 anglers) as well as the USFWS 2006 survey estimate (496,000 anglers), coupled with the DEP's own $1.01 per entry figure, RFA says the estimated cost to the State in order to administrate a saltwater registry would run from $247,544 to upwards of $500,960.



"We recognize the funding issues for the state and especially New Jersey's marine fisheries, but New Jersey is expected to receive about $2.4 million in Sport Fish Restoration Funds for the coming fiscal year, 60% of that specifically dedicated towards saltwater programs," Donofrio said. "The registry legislation can be funded for much less than $1.4 million, so let's be honest with our facts and figures here." Donofrio said the RFA-NJ chapter has been actively engaged in the registration push on behalf of the coastal community for nearly 4 years, and said the time for debate has long passed.



"This registry legislation will meet the federal requirements as outlined by NOAA Fisheries, and it will turn New Jersey into a model state in terms of overall sportfish participation, which is good for business and great for increasing our future allocations of resource," Donofrio added.



Once the Assembly votes on the procedural amendment, S1122/A823 will need to be signed by Governor Christie so that New Jersey can apply for exempted state designation from the federal registration requirements. "There may be some overlap, so all anglers really need to get their free registry this week, and next week we need to contact the Governor in force to let him know how important this legislation is to our coastal fishermen," Donofrio said.



Visit www.countmyfish.noaa.gov (http://www.countmyfish.noaa.gov/) for details about the national saltwater registry.




__________________
Howie

[rip316]

We have a cap on unused sick time. When we retire we are allowed to get paid for the days. $50 a day or a max of $5000. I am on the Administrative side of the wall. The other union employees get $30 a day or a max of the $3000.

[cardoc765]

Keep in mind G, If NJ does go wtih a registration for the state you will have to get that one too. The NOAA one I am sure will NOT override the State issued one.

[DarkSkies]

Sent in by Finchaser, thanks!

http://brick.patch.com/articles/when-the-ball-drops-the-cost-of-fishing-will-rise?ncid=M255
When The Ball Drops, The Cost of Fishing Will Rise

Dec. 31 is last day to register for free under the federal government's systemhttp://aka-cdn-ns.adtechus.com/images/ATCollapse.gif (http://adserver.adtechus.com/?adlink/5305/1768929/0/556/AdId=-3;BnId=0;itime=912268070;key=sports;)
Another year gone by and deeper in debt - or, at least, deeper in fees.
Under a law that went into effect in 2010, anglers have had to register with the federal government before they could fish. The registry, which anglers can sign up for (https://www.countmyfish.noaa.gov/)online (https://www.countmyfish.noaa.gov/), was part of the reauthorization of the Magnuson-Stevens Act in 2006, the federal law that governs the management of fisheries. Its aim is to have a listing of all the country's anglers so better statistics and catch data can be obtained by researchers.

States that have their own registry systems - often a byproduct of the sale of fishing licenses - were exempt. New Jersey - one of two coastal states where anglers fish for free - had no registry in place. In 2010, Garden State anglers registered at a federal Web site for free, but beginning Jan. 1, 2011, Uncle Sam will begin imposing a $15 registration fee.

Though a bill creating a free state registry that complies with federal regulations is in the works - both the state Senate and Assembly passed versions of a bill creating a registry - the two separate bills must be reconciled before they can be sent to Governor Chris Christie to sign. Christie has not said whether or not he will sign the legislation into law.
But for anglers who register before Jan. 1 for next season, registration will be free. The federal Web site is taking registrations and registration renewals for 2011 now.
While observers in the angling community believe that New Jersey will eventually get its own free registry, some aren't taking any chances. Jim Donofrio, founder and executive director of the Recreational Fishing Alliance, urged anglers to register before Jan. 1, but was hopeful New Jersey would get on board with its own registry soon.

"While the Senate voted unanimously to approve Senate Bill 1122, the Assembly version requires a slight technical amendment to match the amended bill approved by the Senate and now awaiting the governor's signature to make law," Donofrio said. ""It's a minor technicality that sometimes happens when you're working so fast and furiously to get a bill passed before an advancing deadline."
The earliest date the bill will appear on Christie's desk will be Jan. 6, according to the RFA.

[gjb1969]

well i guess alot of guys will be paying now

[cardoc765]

I got my registration already and so did mrs cardoc and my family. BUT, once the senate decides how they are going to amend the NJ registration, we WILL all have to pay whatever they say. The registration we already have from NOAA will mean nothing if you don't have the NJ registration. Hey, IMO NY pays already and a lot of us pay for a non resident license for NY as well. So whatever. We all do our best to email, fax, and what we can. It makes a difference.

So be ready G when it comes. I'm not being a jerk, just don't want you misled thinking you're good even if NJ comes up with a paid registration.

[finchaser]

I got my registration already and so did mrs cardoc and my family. BUT, once the senate decides how they are going to amend the NJ registration, we WILL all have to pay whatever they say. The registration we already have from NOAA will mean nothing if you don't have the NJ registration. Hey, IMO NY pays already and a lot of us pay for a non resident license for NY as well. So whatever. We all do our best to email, fax, and what we can. It makes a difference.

So be ready G when it comes. I'm not being a jerk, just don't want you misled thinking you're good even if NJ comes up with a paid registration.


What he ^^^^said is right on

[gjb1969]

it is what it is