View Full Version : NJ Beach replenishment - Pics/Videos before and after
Monty
03-02-2014, 04:38 PM
Took a ride today after the Berkley show and wanted to see the "damage" first hand.
Before replenishment (2012 after Sandy)this is the jetty at the end of Seaview ave, south end of Seven Presidents (Long Branch)
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2012_11_18_Jetty_After.jpg
And then its like magic......its gone, this is the jetty at the end of Seaview ave, south end of Seven Presidents (Long Branch)
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2014_3_2_BR_Long_Branch_1.jpg
Monty
03-02-2014, 04:40 PM
More....looking down the beach from the end of Seaview ave, south end of Seven Presidents in Long Branch
2012, after Sandy
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2012_11_18_To_Right_after.jpg
After replenishment
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2014_3_2_BR_Long_Branch_3.jpg
Monty
03-02-2014, 04:42 PM
More pics.....
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2014_3_2_BR_in_Act_2.jpg
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2014_3_2_BR_in_Act_1.jpg
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2014_3_2_BR_in_Act_3.jpg
http://rocksimpson.com/images/2014_3_2_BR_in_Act_5.jpg
cowherder
03-02-2014, 04:46 PM
OMG. Dis-gus-ting!!!!!!:mad:
hookedonbass
03-02-2014, 04:58 PM
They might as well as pave over the beaches too and make them into parking lots. There is no way the fish are ever going to come in this spring.
Monty
03-02-2014, 05:05 PM
OMG. Dis-gus-ting!!!!!!:mad:
They might as well as pave over the beaches too and make them into parking lots. There is no way the fish are ever going to come in this spring.
There were some rock piles still exposed on other areas (wonder if they will stay like that).
My favorite rock had sand up its wazooo :mad:
There were areas I couldn't tell if they were done.
They had a long dune parallel to the beach and were working just north.
It looked like they were going to fill in all the rock piles and then spread the clean sand dunes over the gray crud.
To me its unbelievable they did this. Wonder after a few big storms what its going to look like?
Does anyone know if this was done at this magnitude before?
buckethead
03-03-2014, 10:04 AM
^^^^^ When they put the Sea bright and monmouth beach wall was the last grand scale changes I can think of. The walls were a good thing. Even though sea bright got devastated by Sandy it would have been a lot worse without the seawall. The problem in Sea Bright is the land is so low lying to begin with it some of that should never had houses on it. Monmouth Beach fared better because it's elevated a little higher. This replenishment they are doing with the jetties is not what is scientifically or structurally best for the land behind it. I feel a seawall should be continued along the shoreline except in places where it doesn't make sense. Unfortunately the homeowners don't want it blocking their view. Although a seawall would cost more the replenishment will cost more in the long run. There are already signs of it failing and the sea taking back the sand as the monmouth beach jetties are already exposed. They only finished the work less than 4 months ago. This is one of the worst examples of government waste I have seen in a long time.
Blazin420
03-03-2014, 02:40 PM
Would probably need alot strong storms to ever get them back but i will say over the summer in Mom Beach they did this and by Dec this year after a few storms there was a 6-7ft drop at the water line:scared:tall enuff to eff you up if u walked off it at night..It did start to uncover the rocks in one area but not to the point of bringing that small pile back..Whats gonna happen if that wall of sand and a 6-7ft drop off shows up in the middle of there beach season???...Alot of beach goers are gonna be real pissed if there kids cant make it down to the water due to a dangerous drop plus at high tide the water would hit the wall and literally almost knock your feet out from under you:scared:...I had 2 real close calls there this Dec almost getting sucked into the wash....Its a real shame they are doing this...And i dont understand why in areas like Deal and S they need to do this the rock walls in that area are twice as high as Sea bright...And no one is ever in those million dollars homes any way..
hookset
03-07-2014, 08:58 PM
Gents we need to take a stand. They are filling in jetty country. Send your e-mails in before it's too late. I just sent mine.
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?9405-Jetty-Country-will-be-a-parking-lot-Want-to-stop-it-Get-involved!
Monty
03-07-2014, 10:01 PM
Gents we need to take a stand. They are filling in jetty country. Send your e-mails in before it's too late. I just sent mine.
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?9405-Jetty-Country-will-be-a-parking-lot-Want-to-stop-it-Get-involved!
Just sent my e-mails to them.
surfstix1963
03-08-2014, 04:40 AM
Looks like there setting up for some condos.
hookset
03-08-2014, 09:07 AM
Looks like there setting up for some condos.
Come on guy we can do better than that. I realize you were probably being sarcastic but this is terrible. Don't you have jetties you fish in long island? If the storm was so all devastating to both our areas how come they are not covering the jetties in long island and just NJ? I not looking to start a fight but something is really screwed up here and we should at least try to do something. We have until mar 26 can you help us by sending a letter in that other thread. Thanks!
Monty thanks for your help.
Pebbles
03-08-2014, 05:40 PM
Would probably need alot strong storms to ever get them back but i will say over the summer in Mom Beach they did this and by Dec this year after a few storms there was a 6-7ft drop at the water line:scared:tall enuff to eff you up if u walked off it at night..It did start to uncover the rocks in one area but not to the point of bringing that small pile back..Whats gonna happen if that wall of sand and a 6-7ft drop off shows up in the middle of there beach season???...Alot of beach goers are gonna be real pissed if there kids cant make it down to the water due to a dangerous drop plus at high tide the water would hit the wall and literally almost knock your feet out from under you:scared:...I had 2 real close calls there this Dec almost getting sucked into the wash....Its a real shame they are doing this...And i dont understand why in areas like Deal and S they need to do this the rock walls in that area are twice as high as Sea bright...And no one is ever in those million dollars homes any way..
I totally agree. They will change their minds when a couple of children drown or a couple of beach goers get sucked into the sea, when they hit that drop. Lawsuit here we come!
DarkSkies
03-28-2014, 08:20 AM
I have been reaching out to everyone I know, or ever met, on this issue. Anyone who has ever put their foot on sand and salt water...fishermen, politicians, homeowners, attorneys... and yes...some environmentalists such as the ALS and other groups.
The feedback I have been getting is making me sick to my stomach, and causing me to have trouble sleeping some nights....
I don't know if we're going to win this fight, folks....but until my last breath on this earth, my dying day...I will fight against bullies such as the ACOE and the politicians who say they are "for" fishermen, and are just patronizing us....because it is not about protecting homes, or protecting the environment, it is about self-preservation, and lining their pockets...
I learned about the dirty nature of politics long ago when I got involved in fishermen issues, all the way back to the subway cars/ reef starters that NJ did not get, that went to Delaware...
1. I blamed the environmentalists for this loss, because they raised too many issues that caused us to lose out....
Delaware....long suffering from lack of inshore structure along its coast, now has risen to the top for bottom fishing trips. Some of the biggest blackfish on the Coast come from guys who drive to Delaware to pay to fish on their boats....
I would estimate the financial loss to NJ, of this one decision to let Delaware have those subway cars, in the millions.
2. The other group, that dominates us fishermen every time, is the big political contributors.
No matter how important we fishermen think our issues are, the concerns of the biggest political contributors take precedent.
We can be angry at that, or we can learn from that....simple choices.
**Looking back, it really was about the politicians, and votes.....decisions were made because those in charge, were afraid if they didn't, the political interest group with the most power would vote against them in the next election. So it's my contention that we should not hate the environmentalists.....even though they make our lives miserable at times.....
We should be jealous of their power, ability to organize, and rally support for or against an issue....
DarkSkies
03-28-2014, 08:21 AM
Strategic Analysis:
Rather than hating them, we should be jealous at how organized the above groups are, and how they are able to reach and influence politicians.
We should learn from some of the strategies they have used.....
1. Lobbying
2. Letter and e-mail writing
3. Face to face talks with politicians
4. Pressuring politicians that if they won't listen to their concerns, they will vote them out....
The biggest problem with #4 above is that fishermen are historically splintered into many factions.
We talk a big game, but when it comes down to it,. we are impotent....we lack the cohesiveness and drive, to be seen as a threat to a politician's survival.
Most of that I believe is due to Apathy in the current generation....many folks lack the initiative or incentive to care or protest about something unless it directly affects them...they lack the foresight to see how a decision today, in another state or area, could affect them tomorrow....
During the fight for fishing access at Shoreham Beach, Brookhaven, LI, I learned that pictures can make a difference....
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?3415-A-tale-of-2-towns-Brookhaven-vs-Riverhead
I saw that this had a positive affect on the outcome.
They say a picture tells a thousand words...
Some of the most compelling pics, have changed lives, changed elections, and changed policy...
If so, a video tells a million words.....
They can be very powerful tools.....
This is what is needed, to galvanize public support....
If we are to gain headway, it will be on the little points that the ACOE and politicians neglected to explore....
Nothing is as powerful as a video which clearly shows what someone is saying, to be untrue....
DarkSkies
03-28-2014, 09:45 AM
A video shot by Art Nelson with clips from back in the 90's showing the effects of beach replenishment on the southern Monmouth county beaches....some of the clips show restoration from Spring Lake to Manasquan......
**During Sandy.....that sand and jetty notching protected none of those houses......because by then most of that sand had been washed away.....
After you folks watch the video....make your own assessments....ask yourselves, after watching it....if sand replenishment effectively protects the real estate?....or does it just provide jobs and curry political favor?...you decide.....
Also, do we blindly accept the words of the ACOE, who has lied in federal testimony before?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4N22tarcr4
0:00"This film will prove that you can't be in favor of marine life along the Jersey Shore and sand pumping. You just can't have it both ways. "
5:45 "The Army Corps of Engineers has falsely testified that there is no life to speak of around the shallow structures"
DarkSkies
03-28-2014, 10:28 AM
Art Nelson's video is but one example...:thumbsup:
I am asking all the folks reading this.....
to thnk if they could help this cause, by
1. Post pics, or
2. Post videos, from the internet, or youtube....
a. Do a Youtube search on beach replenishment. You will find scores of videos....
b. Easy instructions on how to post videos here..(posts 17 and 18)
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/showthread.php?6186-Stripers-and-Anglers-Helpful-hints!
Anything connected to beach replenishment, that could help us. and maybe establish a precedent for the long run.
Thanks. :HappyWave:
surferman
03-28-2014, 11:48 AM
That art nelson video is so sad. They suck! and to top it off they are liars too. Thanks for posting I will look around and try to find some videos to post too.
hookset
03-28-2014, 12:23 PM
I don't see how any sane person could watch that and not get a knot in there stomach.
jigfreak
03-31-2014, 09:29 AM
Sorry to be so negative but pallone and memandez were pushing beach replenishment back in 2011. Do you think there will be alternatives considered at any acoe meeting? not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej5ajDVIfAY
jigfreak
03-31-2014, 09:44 AM
another pallone video. Here hes talking about the seabright and mon beach replenishment. Totally different animal than jetty row. This guys a hero hes not going to listen to fishermen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1cEWoQwRoc
porgy75
03-31-2014, 10:22 AM
Sorry to be so negative but pallone and memandez were pushing beach replenishment back in 2011. Do you think there will be alternatives considered at any acoe meeting? not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej5ajDVIfAY
Did you see how they looked at the guys protesting this? like they were little children! I think Joe Werner said it best "they provide some access they don't affect adequate access. And the rules that the Christie administration is putting across will reduce the access."
They then went on to blame the state govt for access problems. If they are involved aren't they responsible too?
hookset
03-31-2014, 01:13 PM
:clapping:Thank God for surfrider. They have been involved in almost every beach access issue. They don't back down. From their site.
Beach Replenishment
Surfrider Foundation has worked on the issue of beach replenishment since the late 1990′s. Along with groups like SEA we have slowly but surely educated the public and decision makers about the problems associated with beach replenishment. The best article on beachfil is on Beachapedia.org, a great source of information on all things coastal. The problems with replenishment are in the ?Costs of Beachfill? section of the article. Many newspaper and other articles are linked there, but often they are in the numbered footnotes. You can click the footnote or go to that section to read the full original article. So go to http://www.beachapedia.org/Beach_Fill (http://www.beachapedia.org/Beach_Fill)
There is more information there about
More dangerous swimming conditions and injuries to bathers after replenishment
Poor quality sand impacting the environment, wildlife and aesthetics Negative Impacts on Marine Life
Beach Access and Beach Replenishment
The New York District of the Army Corps of Engineers is finally considering alternative designs and actually pumping some beaches differently and some beaches differently based on what we have taught them.
http://jerseyshore.surfrider.org/campaigns/beachfill-beach-replenishment/
hookset
03-31-2014, 01:33 PM
showing long branch and pier village replenishment from helicopter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpbRRKQ2eaM
ocean city maryland, Halfway through you see the usacoe guy explaining how they do no harm to the environment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf9JK1xs_7c
hookset
03-31-2014, 01:56 PM
interesting tv overview of dredgers throughout the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVCrP8ZvX8o
hesco concertainers one alternative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emqaQebk5fQ
hookset
03-31-2014, 02:11 PM
affecting marine wildlife
http://www.brynmawr.edu/geology/geomorph/beachnourishmentinfo.html
http://www.conserveturtles.org/velador.php?page=velart27
http://coastalcare.org/sections/inform/beach-nourishment/
asmfc
http://w.asmfc.org/uploads/file/beachNourishment.pdf
different structures
http://www.beachapedia.org/Shoreline_Structures
hookset
03-31-2014, 02:19 PM
from 2011 long term affects
http://www.falw.vu.nl/nl/Images/Leewis2012a_tcm19-303084.pdf
seamonkey
03-31-2014, 02:26 PM
from 2011 long term affects
http://www.falw.vu.nl/nl/Images/Leewis2012a_tcm19-303084.pdf
That was interesting. I wonder if the army corps have done that much research on long term affects.
5. Conclusions and management implications
We showed no negative long-term consequences of beachnourishment on the abundance of the sampled species. However,beach nourishment can alter the community composition, asbecame clear from the elevated abundance of Scolelepis squamata
after nourishment. This also shows that S. squamata is an opportunisticspecies and may act as a potential ecological indicator.Morphology and wave characteristics are important to allspecies, but every species has its own specific habitat demands,which should be taken into account when planning nourishments.Moreover, beach slope and sediment characteristicsshould be matched with the original beach (Janssen et al., 2011).Not only grain size distribution is important, but also sorting andskewness should be taken into account, since we found theseto be of importance for Haustorius arenarius and Bathyporeiasarsi. Whether these ?new? parameters are truly of ecologicalsignificance for the species, or merely indicators of morphology,remains unknown to this point and should be investigatedexperimentally.Monitoring pre- and post-nourishment remains of the greatestimportance to gain more insight in survival and recovery of macroinvertebratefauna after impacts. Further extension of ourfundamental knowledge on species-specific survival, recolonisationand settlement behavior, and habitat demands will ensurenourishment to be more ecologically based in the future.
buckethead
04-03-2014, 01:41 PM
That was interesting. I wonder if the army corps have done that much research on long term affects.
5. Conclusions and management implications
We showed no negative long-term consequences of beachnourishment on the abundance of the sampled species. However,beach nourishment can alter the community composition,
Probably not much. Take a look at these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bf7thyLAHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htx-0JtLcDc
jigfreak
04-03-2014, 02:47 PM
Great find buckethead. here's another. Wish someone else besides Nelson had done a study showing the before and after. that's what you need something that shows a dramatic change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe5OUI3MhFM
buckethead
04-05-2014, 03:10 PM
Some scientific studies done a while ago
Can any of you folks with scientific background make sense of this?
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25736254?uid=3739808&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103799095777
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25736258?uid=3739808&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103799095777
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25736257?uid=3739808&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103799095777
Another scientific paper about groin notching
http://www.jstor.org/stable/i25736240
(if the links above are messed up those papers can be found here)
buckethead
08-01-2014, 11:08 AM
I was walking some of my favorite beaches this morning at low tide. I think the sand replenishment started a series of bad consequences that was the worst possible decision making process. All it did was cause more sand to move North which it does naturally anyway.
Many of these ACOE folks will retire with 6 figure pensions. This is one of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money that I can remember. For shame that 30 years from now it will be realized that this was a waste. Too late after hundreds of millions of dollars are spent throwing this money out to sea. literally.
VSdreams
08-01-2014, 12:03 PM
hundreds of millions of dollars are spent throwing this money out to sea. literally.
This is a breakdown of the spending I found on the net. $65 millionfor sea bright to long branch alone. Despicable.
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Monty
08-01-2014, 12:21 PM
I was walking some of my favorite beaches this morning at low tide. I think the sand replenishment started a series of bad consequences that was the worst possible decision making process. All it did was cause more sand to move North which it does naturally anyway.
Many of these ACOE folks will retire with 6 figure pensions. This is one of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money that I can remember. For shame that 30 years from now it will be realized that this was a waste. Too late after hundreds of millions of dollars are spent throwing this money out to sea. literally.
All that $$ to completely screw up the Jersey coast so that people could basically steal tax payers money.
Take 1/10th the money, build jails, lock them up and throw away the key.
surfstix1963
08-02-2014, 02:52 AM
You can't fight Mother Nature they will spend this money and one good storm will take it right back happens all the time. They are just Pissing up a rope it happens continually at demo every time they dredge the thumb is just about gone soon to become a small reef and wipe out the beach bye bye Babylon beaches
jigfreak
08-07-2014, 05:12 PM
Mantoloking sea barriers. "One size does not fit all."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g-NLcbSAhc
J Barbosa
09-05-2014, 11:42 AM
The large pipe that passes under RT 36 in Monmouth Beach is setup and being used again. Are they pumping river mud all over Monmouth Beach?
I have also been seeing the US Army Corps of Engineers split hull dredge ship named "CURRITUCK" leave the twin rivers under full load and exit to the ocean.
Here is a picture from yesterday
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3855/15144927671_3311f8d72f_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94721242@N02/15144927671/)
Here is what the CURRITUCK looks like when empty (4ft difference in draft)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3876/14961349287_7291e65f5e_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94721242@N02/14961349287/)
More info about the CURRITUCK:
Port: Wilmington, North Carolina
This vessel works in the shallow-draft ocean bar channels along the Atlantic coast. However, in addition to removing dredged material from the channel, the CURRITUCK can transport the material to the downdrift beach and deposit it in the surf zone to nourish sand-starved beaches.
Type: Seagoing, shallowdraft special purpose dredge, steel construction, full diesel, with twin outboard propulsion units.
Built: Barbour Boat Works, New Bern, North Carolina, 1974.
Converted to Dredge: US Army Engineer Yard, Eagle Island, North Carolina, 1977.
Vessel Characteristics and Specifications:
Gross Tonnage 484 tons
Displacement, Light 175 long tons
Displacement, Loaded 615 long tons
Length, Overall 150?-0?
Beam, Molded 30?-7?
Draft, Light 3?-4?
Draft, Loaded 7?-6?
Capacity 315 cubic yards
Propulsion Equipment:
Engines- 2 - CAT 3406E, 450 HP @ 1800 RPM
Outboard Propelling Units- Holland Roerpropeller, (HRP)
Model HRP 350 Deckunit
Speed, Loaded Approx: 7 knots
Speed, Light: 8 knots
Bunker Capacity: 3600 gal diesel fuel
Potable Water Capacity: 400 gal
Dredging Equipment:
Primer mover- 2 ea , CAT 3304 DIT 160 HP
Dredge Pumps- 2 ea HDM-32-12x10, 400 RPM-Dredge Master?s direct coupled
Drags- Brunswick County Type
Drag hoisting winches- Braded Series PD 12C
Total Compliment: 24 men split into 4 crews (24 hour dredging)
Filling the hull with sand
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5586/14961352818_d03135a455_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94721242@N02/14961352818/)
Opening the split hull to deposit the sand
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5578/14961353818_e3fcf5cce0.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94721242@N02/14961353818/)
Close up of the open split hull
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5564/14961207699_78c7837eda_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94721242@N02/14961207699/)
jigfreak
09-05-2014, 04:17 PM
Are they pumping river mud all over Monmouth Beach?
Yes that's why I stopped fishing there. Used to always be able to pick up a few bass at night. What bass wants to hang out in all that dirty nasty river crap? They are ruining fishing all over nj with that replenishment. Awesome pics jb thanks for sharing.
voyager35
09-05-2014, 05:26 PM
When you are on a boat and go past MB you can see the dirty water. How things have changed.
J Barbosa
09-05-2014, 10:34 PM
^^ This sucks...I was just talking to someone the other day and mentioned how many for sale signs are all over Deal. You rarely ever saw one in that area. Those houses are elevated 20-30ft off the water and except for a few that were right on the water they survived with little damage. You would think they would be happy to have big full private beaches soon...do they know something we don't?
I love how that dredge ship can split itself in half to drop sand quickly to the bottom. It goes against all the rules you think about when it comes to boats and floatation. Powerful tools in the wrong hands unfortunately.
finchaser
09-06-2014, 08:38 AM
The CURRITUCK just does inlets it's not for replenishment. It is owned and operated by the Army Corp of morons.
The boats doing Deal are contracted boats which will start burying Deal and Locke arbor very soon. We lost as per the last meeting they had.
surferman
09-06-2014, 11:09 AM
I would suggest you guys get out there and enjoy it while you can. Or you can come down to Cape May and see what beach replenishment has done to our fishing. We used to have a lot of different fish that came in to the surf. Stripers too. Now it's concentrated in May and October. 2 great months out of the year and the rest is pretty lame. Sorry to be a bummer but after it is done up there you will see what I mean. The fish will not come in anymore.
J Barbosa
09-08-2014, 10:50 AM
The CURRITUCK just does inlets it's not for replenishment. It is owned and operated by the Army Corp of morons.
The boats doing Deal are contracted boats which will start burying Deal and Locke arbor very soon. We lost as per the last meeting they had.
Right. We are definitely missing some piece to the puzzle here.
They did setup the pipe that runs under RT36 so they may just be pumping sand/mud into the ocean to clear the river channels.
The CURRITUCK pumps sand on board and then goes out to sea to dump it. Why would they need the RT36 pipe?
I saw the CURRITUCK leave the bay yesterday and head south from Sand Hook only to return four hours later. Using its 7-8 knot max speed (8mph) you can calculate that it didn't go further than 16 miles from sandy hook.
baitstealer
09-08-2014, 03:24 PM
Awesome pics thanks for sharing.
hookedonbass
09-08-2014, 06:27 PM
X2 those are some really cool photos.
J Barbosa
09-09-2014, 02:09 PM
THEY WARNED US IN JULY AND NOBODY CAUGHT IT....
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2014/07/monmouth_beach_to_build_dunes_with_dredged_materia l_from_shrewsbury_river.html#incart_related_storie s
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Monmouth Beach to build dunes with dredged material from Shrewsbury River
MaryAnn Spoto | The Star-Ledger By MaryAnn Spoto | The Star-Ledger
on July 18, 2014 at 7:05 AM, updated July 18, 2014 at 7:18 AM
MONMOUTH BEACH - Its beachfront still a work in progress after Hurricane Sandy, Monmouth Beach plans to use material dredged from the Shrewsbury River to rebuild a portion of its dunes.
The dredge work the first in that section of the river in more than two decades is one of three federal projects scheduled to start after Labor Day to make the river more navigable while giving the borough more protection from future storms, borough officials said.
The federal work, which officials say has been long overdue, also includes repairs to the rock sea wall damaged during Sandy.
It's very exciting. We?ve been working for years on the dredge issues,? Mayor Susan Howard said. They were looking for someone who would accept (the sand) and we jumped on it.
She said it's been more than 25 years since the channels have been dredged. Howard said this was one of the top complaints she heard when she first came to office nine years ago.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers last month awarded a nearly $1.8 million contract to H&L Contracting LLC to dredge channels of the Shrewsbury River of 60,000 cubic yards of sand, according to Rep. Frank Pallone (D-6th Dist.).
The project involves installing a hydraulic dredge under Route 36 and over the borough's sea wall to pipe the dredged materials onto the beach for dunes, he said.
Howard said that before being placed on the beach, the material will be tested to make sure there are no contaminants.
What we can accept is clean sand, she said.
Sand will be pumped onto the beach starting at about a quarter-mile north of Seacrest Road and continue south as necessary, Pallone said.
The first contract pays for the dredging. The borough obtained a second federal grant of another nearly $1.8 million to create about 6,400 feet of dunes along its 1.5 miles of beach, Howard and Pallone said.
Sandy destroyed the dunes on the beach and although the borough has tried to start building new ones, the efforts have been very slow, Howard said. The sand from the river wont restore the dunes to their original 6-to-10 feet height, so it will be placed on the beach strategically, she said.
In the third project, Monmouth Beach will share with neighboring Sea Bright a $2.98 million appropriation from the federal Sandy aid package to repair the 15-foot-high sea wall.
Monmouth Beach engineer Bonnie Heard said Sandy knocked boulders loose in several sections of the wall, which also needs to be grouted with concrete.
J Barbosa
09-09-2014, 02:20 PM
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2014/09/headline_shrewsbury_river_dredging_for_monmouth_be ach_dunes_has_some_residents_disturbed.html#incart _related_stories
Shrewsbury River dredging for Monmouth Beach dunes has residents disturbed
By MaryAnn Spoto | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com (http://connect.nj.com/user/mspoto/posts.html)
on September 09, 2014 at 7:02 AM
MONMOUTH BEACH (http://www.nj.com/monmouth%20county/) - A federal project to dredge the Shrewsbury River and use the spoils to build dunes in Monmouth Beach has some residents concerned about the safety of the black sludge being pumped through the pipe.
Monmouth Beach Mayor Susan Howard and officials from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers insist the 50,000 cubic yards of sand being dredged from the river's channels is tested and is considered safe, but some who've seen the black water pouring out of the pipe daily aren't convinced.
William Bauder, a Highlands resident, said he went swimming in the ocean north of the outflow on Sept. 4 and he left the water with a burning taste in his mouth.
The taste lasted at least another day, he said.
Monmouth Beach resident Alan Salowe said he didn't go into the water the day after Labor Day because the ocean near the outfall pipe was gray.
"Tuesday after Labor Day the ocean turned into a darker gray, more thick sludge, so that no one went into the water," Salowe said.
He and another borough resident, Tina Grasso, said they also saw a lot of garbage in the area.
Larry Ragonese, a spokesman for the state Department of Environmental Protection, said he has received no reports of complaints about the quality of the ocean water in Monmouth Beach.
Dave Henry, health officer for Monmouth County Regional Health Department, which covers 21 communities in Monmouth County including Monmouth Beach, hasn?t received any complaints about the water and hasn't been given any specific advisories about it.
The DEP tests the ocean water weekly for bacteria levels, but that monitoring only occurs between Memorial Day and Labor Day.
Henry said bacterial testing would not detect any metals in the water.
"It's not something that?s routinely done,' Henry said.
A representative from the Army Corps did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Howard said the areas being dredged in the river, shallow channels created by decades of shoaling and Hurricane Sandy, were tested for toxicity and only uncontaminated sand is being pumped onto the beach.
"They're only pumping what is allowed,' she said.
"A significant amount of testing is going on. They're very careful."
She said no resident had reported any issues with the ocean water.
In a letter to the 1,200 residents who registered to receive borough emails., Howard explained the need for dunes after Hurricane Sandy in 2012 and touted the environmental and educational benefits it would bring. But the letter didn't mention anything about testing and the safety of the sand.
"Restoration of the dune system along the ocean will help absorb and dissipate the ocean's wave energy during future storms, and will be constructed to provide nesting habitat for endangered species including piping plovers, least terns, and black skimmers," the letter said.
But Jeff Tittel, director of the New Jersey Sierra Club, said the material being pumped onto the beach is half sand and half water and the system is designed to have the water run off into the ocean with most of the sand staying behind on the beach. He said testing doesn't necessarily ensure dirty sand won't get on the beach.
"Pumping dredge spoils onto beaches is DEP run amok . There is oil, Sandy debris , dirt and other materials being dumped on our beaches and into our waters," Tittel said. "It is a failed policy based on political expedience that hurts the environment. This about saving money not about what is right for hour beaches, our oceans or tourism."
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surferman
09-12-2014, 08:16 PM
Very informative thanks for sharing. I would suggest you guys go and stage a protest in front of those road graders. Once they start it's skunk city for where ever they do it to.
hookset
09-13-2014, 09:18 AM
THEY WARNED US IN JULY AND NOBODY CAUGHT IT....
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2014/07/monmouth_beach_to_build_dunes_with_dredged_materia l_from_shrewsbury_river.html#incart_related_storie s
The project involves installing a hydraulic dredge under Route 36 and over the borough's sea wall to pipe the dredged materials onto the beach for dunes, he said.
Howard said that before being placed on the beach, the material will be tested to make sure there are no contaminants.
What we can accept is clean sand, she said.
Sand will be pumped onto the beach starting at about a quarter-mile north of Seacrest Road and continue south as necessary, Pallone said.
The first contract pays for the dredging. The borough obtained a second federal grant of another nearly $1.8 million to create about 6,400 feet of dunes along its 1.5 miles of beach, Howard and Pallone said.
Well I have checked out the surf there a few times and it's definitely not clean. Looks like someone had diarrhea after a late night binge at White Castle. Definitely dirty nasty river mud. Thank you Mr Pallone.
baitstealer
09-14-2014, 07:09 AM
I was fishing manasquan this morning and there were jetties on the beach! I thought they covered them up. Millions of dollars and it seems like the sand has washed away already.
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VSdreams
02-05-2015, 10:32 AM
Found this on the net. The guy did a before and after representation of jetty country. Pretty sad soon the only place to catch fish will be a boat or kayak.
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finchaser
03-27-2015, 11:20 PM
Beach replenishment activities began this week in Loch Arbour.
The first phase will pump and notch from 8th Avenue Asbury Park to Phillips Avenue, Deal.
Thanks to all who fought the good fight, we tried our best.
?I?m pleased that the Army Corps is moving forward with this important investment that will help to protect homes and businesses along the Jersey Shore from future flooding and repair the destruction caused by Sandy,? Pallone said in a prepared release. ?Our beaches are a fundamental part of life here on the shore, both for residents to enjoy and also to drive tourism. I have fought for this and other beach replenishment projects for years because I know how important they are to protect some of our most fragile coastal infrastructure.?
The contract includes placement of 1,400,000 cubic yards of sand, lengthening of six existing stormwater outfalls, and modification of two existing groins.
Army Corps engineers had originally planned to notch six groins, also known as jetties, between Elberon and Loch Arbour. However, after area fishermen, surfers, area residents and other concerned citizens rallied against the project, the Army Corps agreed to only notch three groins within the project area.
Two groins, one at Deal Casino and the other at Marine Place, will be notched as a part of the southern Deal to Loch Arbour contract, and a third groin at Phillips Avenue will be notched under the forthcoming contract that will cover Elberon to northern Deal.
The Army Corps is also working with the Deal Lake Commission to finalize plans to install an electronic gate in the Deal Lake Flume to allow the outfall to be cleared efficiently if it were to become blocked by sand, an issue which was also discussed at last year?s meeting.
?Awarding this contract, which is the first of two contracts, for the Elberon to Loch Arbour storm risk reduction project will enable the Corps to begin working on completion of the last remaining section for the 21 miles of shoreline between Sea Bright and Manasquan? Col. Paul Owen, commander, Army Corps of Engineers, New York District, said in the release. ?This project is another example of great teamwork for our continued efforts to increase resiliency on the Jersey Shore in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. We have had great cooperation between the State, local municipalities, public, and political interests as we have worked together to refine and complete the plans for the project and finally award the first of two construction contracts. Once complete, this project will provide additional beach erosion control and storm risk reduction to coastal communities in New Jersey.?
buckethead
04-28-2015, 03:28 PM
Asbury Park Press
4/18/15
John Oswald
A controversial beach replenishment project that will cost close to $40 million and pump 1.4 million cubic yards of sand onto the beaches between Deal and Lock Arbour got underway this week.
Rep. Frank Pallone Jr., D-6th District, will be visiting the site today at the Allenhurst Beach Club at 12:30 p.m. with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, as well as state and local officials to kick the project off. The funding is entirely federal and is part of the Sandy aid package that Rep. Pallone championed in Congress.
"As New Jerseyans well know, the fight for Sandy aid has not been easy, but the start of this project is a rewarding milestone in our efforts," Rep. Pallone said.
"Beaches are a fundamental part of life here on the shore, both for residents and our tourist economy. I will continue to fight for replenishment projects to help protect homes and businesses along the Jersey Shore from future flooding and to repair the destruction caused by Sandy."
Opponents of the project, however, call it a colossal waste of money as nature has demonstrated time and again the sand won't stay put.
A number of protests were held last spring in opposition to the project, which not only involves beach replenishment but the notching of jetties or groins within the stretch of beach.
Notching involves removing sections of the jetties so that the ocean is allowed to flow between the sections or between the jetty and the beach. Theoretically, the notching is supposed to allow for an even distribution of sand and adds to the longevity of the replenishment.
"All the sand will just go to Sandy Hook," said Joe Pallotto, president of the Asbury Park Fishing Club and the former manager of the city's beaches. "You need a camel out there to get to the water."
What's even worse, said Pallotto, is that the project will effectively turn a thriving ecosystem into a desert.
One area that will receive tons of sand is known as "jetty country," a stretch of rockpiles and groins that act as a nursery for a wide variety of fish and marine life, and offers some of the best recreational fishing along the Atlantic coast.
"Would you bury a coral reef?" asked Greg Hueth, president of the Shark River Surf Anglers. "All that habitat will be filled in and destroyed and won't come back. It's like burying somebody alive."
While he is in favor of the beach replenishment, Rep. Pallone does question the value of the notching of jetties and worked on a compromise with the Army Corp of Engineers to reduce the number of jetties notched to three from six.
"I believe replenishment makes a difference and the various storms and hurricanes have proven that," he said. "Notching is more suspect but the engineers want to do it so we work out these compromises."
Rep. Pallone said that this is the only area along the Monmouth County coast that hasn't received replenishment so those that are against it aren't going to be happy now that it's being done here.
"There are some negative aspects to it, but overall, it makes sense," he added.
At this point, any objections have been rendered moot as the sand is coming.
buckethead
04-28-2015, 03:29 PM
Don't know if you folks have seen the jetties in deal lately but it is not a pretty sight. The worst thing about it is they know it will not work and are doing it any way.
hookedonbass
04-28-2015, 05:00 PM
That has to suck big time to see that happen.
jigfreak
04-29-2015, 09:09 AM
End of an era. Just like litter and pollution. You can't stop progress. There were some great nights on those jetties. Now they are just a memory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dmtkxm9yQY
plugcrazy
04-30-2015, 10:59 AM
Job security for the army corp douches. I agree it really sux.
buckethead
05-01-2015, 10:39 AM
That has to suck big time to see that happen.
I don't know how old you are but most of the young folks have no idea how bad this will be. Most of the big shore caught fish in the 90's came from the jetties and bridges at night. Folks cannot conceive of catching 30 or 40 fish in the 15 lb class and above. To most it is just a dream. To those of us who fished the jetties it was a reality during certain months during that time. That, and the fact that bass get hammered every year, make it truly a special time. The biodiversity of life around those jetties takes years to develop and attract fish. Once covered they will be a dead zone for quite some time. The area that the sand purports to protect will erode with each winter noreaster. It will have to be permanently replenished for eternity.
VSdreams
05-01-2015, 11:16 AM
really is hard to imagine catching that many fish buckethead. If I catch 10 in a night I am ecstatic! 30 to 40 would be the mother lode. Thanks for sharing that. From what I have read here and other places it will be the dead sea. What ashame.
fishinmission78
05-02-2015, 07:31 PM
So true. Business as usual for the A** coe
hookedonbass
05-07-2015, 11:23 AM
Heres one case where it definitely didn't work.
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2015/05/something_strange_is_happening_to_sea_brights_beac .html#incart_river_mobile
finchaser
05-07-2015, 02:46 PM
128 million approved for the start of LBI dune replenishment today
CHRISTIE ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES START OF $128 MILLION BEACH AND DUNE CONTRACT ON LONG BEACH ISLAND
PROJECTS ARE KEY TO STATE'S POST-SANDY COASTAL PROTECTION SYSTEM
(15/P41) TRENTON -The Christie Administration today joined with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Philadelphia District to announce the start of construction on a $128 million contract to complete beach and dune projects for Long Beach Island that will protect lives and property against future storms such as Superstorm Sandy.
Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) Commissioner Bob Martin and Army Corps Lt. Colonel Andrew Yoder, of the Philadelphia District, were joined by U.S. Rep. Frank LoBiondo, Ocean County freeholders, mayors and other dignitaries at a news conference in Ship Bottom to mark the beginning of the series of projects.
"This is a tremendous day for residents of Long Beach Island and for everyone who loves to visit and vacation here," Commissioner Martin said. "This project is a great example of the type of teamwork needed at all levels of government as Governor Christie continues his commitment to a statewide coastal protection system to defend our economically vital shore communities."
The projects encompass a total of 12.7 miles of beaches in Long Beach Township, Ship Bottom, Beach Haven and part of Surf City. They will complete storm damage reduction projects that were being constructed in phases prior to Sandy striking New Jersey in October 2012. The contract to complete the initial construction on LBI is funded 100 percent by the federal government under the provisions of the Sandy Relief Act, signed into law in 2013.
The Army Corps' contractor, Great Lakes Dredge & Dock Co., will construct beach and dune systems ranging from 325 feet to 415 feet wide. The beach berm itself will be built up to approximately eight feet above sea level. The dune system behind the beach - critical to protection of property, infrastructure and lives - will have a top elevation of approximately 22 feet above sea level.
"Beach projects like this one on LBI are something that I have always promoted not only because of the boost it gives our State's $40 billion tourism economy but also for the community protection role it plays from storms," said Congressman LoBiondo (NJ-2). "This joint effort to safeguard these coastal communities is one I am proud to support and I thank all of the project partners for their actions."
"In the days immediately after Sandy, it was flyover photos of Long Beach Island that provided the clearest visual evidence that dunes and beach nourishment make a difference - because we saw sections where this project had already been built, right alongside others where it had not, and the contrast in terms of property damage was striking," said Lt. Colonel Michael Bliss, Commander of the Philadelphia District. "Well, no one wants to see that again. And the good news is, at the end of this contract, all of the communities along LBI will enjoy this same level of protection."
The Long Beach Island project, also known as the Barnegat Inlet to Little Egg Inlet project, is one of seven significant beach improvement projects statewide authorized by Congress but never completed before Sandy hit.
Ultimately, eight million cubic yards of sand will be pumped from an approved "borrow area" approximately three miles offshore.
Work will be done in small sections of no more than 1,000 feet of beach at a time in order to minimize any disruptions to residents and visitors. Beach fill work is expected to take place at the rate of about 100 to 250 feet per day.
All of the various phases of the project are expected to be completed by April 2016. The project schedule is as follows:
* Ship Bottom - May to early June of this year.
* 106th Street to 13th Street in Long Beach - June to September of this year
* 57th Street to 106th Street in Long Beach - July to October of this year.
* Beach Haven and Holgate section of Long Beach and 12th Street in Long Beach south to the border of the Holgate Wildlife Refuge - September of this year to March 2016
* North Beach section of Long Beach and a portion of Surf City - December of this year to February 2016
* Loveladies section of Long Beach - February to March 2016
"We are really thrilled," said Ship Bottom Mayor Bill Huelsenbeck. "This project is a long time coming. Ship Bottom did fairly well in Sandy because we had dunes that were in pretty good shape. We have $1.3 billion in ratables in a small area. Those sand dunes mean a lot to us."
"The people of Long Beach Island are extremely pleased that the dredges will start the process of pumping sand on the beach this week to finish what was started in Surf City in 2006," said Long Beach Mayor Joseph Mancini. "We all witnessed how the engineered beaches and dunes in Surf City, Harvey Cedars and part of Brant Beach, survived the wrath of Superstorm Sandy and protected the properties to the west of them. The remainder of LBI will have the same security and peace of mind. I would like to thank the DEP, the Army Corps, our legislators and the LBI municipalities, who have worked so hard collectively, to bring this project to fruition."
Prior to Sandy, the Army Corps completed the initial construction of the project at Surf City (3rd-22nd street) in 2007; Harvey Cedars in 2010; and Brant Beach (31st and 57th Streets) in Long Beach Township in 2012. The Army Corps repaired previously constructed beaches in Surf City in 2011, and fully restored all previously constructed beaches within the three communities after Superstorm Sandy.
Long Beach Island stretches 18 miles from Barnegat Light to Holgate. With the start of the LBI project, the Christie Administration continues to make significant headway in bolstering New Jersey's coastline, a key driver of New Jersey's tourism economy that pumps some $40 billion in tourism revenues into the Garden State each year.
Two of those projects - at Oakwood Beach along the Delaware River in Salem County and the Raritan Bay shoreline in the Port Monmouth section of Middletown - were completed last year.
Last month, the Christie Administration and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers launched the start of a $57.6-million project to construct beaches and dunes in southern Ocean City, the Strathmere section of Upper Township, and Sea Isle City in Cape May County. At the same time, the administration announced the start of $38.2 million project to construct beaches, make stormwater outfall improvements and implement modifications to other shore protection structures in the area of Loch Arbour, Allenhurst and Deal in Monmouth County.
Other beach construction work planned to begin this year include completion of Brigantine Inlet to Cape May Inlet, Absecon Island (at Margate and Longport) and initial construction of the Manasquan Inlet to Barnegat Inlet project along the Northern Ocean County peninsula, to include Point Pleasant Beach, Bay Head, Mantoloking, Brick, Toms River, Lavallette, Seaside Heights, Seaside Park and Berkeley.
Last month, the Christie Administration and the Army Corps of Engineers, also announced a $202 million resiliency project that will bolster storm protection for Union Beach along Raritan Bay, one of the communities hardest hit by Superstorm Sandy.
The majority of funding for this project will come from the federal government at $132 million. New Jersey will fund about $53 million and Union Beach will provide $17 million. This project, involving beaches, flood walls, levees and flood gates, is expected to be launched in late 2016.
For more information on the LBI project, visit: http://www.nap.usace.army.mil/Missions/CivilWorks/LongBeachIslandStormDamageReduction.aspx
For more information on post-Sandy coastal projects in New Jersey, visit: http://www.nj.gov/dep/shoreprotection/projects.htm
jigfreak
05-09-2015, 03:51 PM
"The people of Long Beach Island are extremely pleased that the dredges will start the process of pumping sand on the beach this week to finish what was started in Surf City in 2006," said Long Beach Mayor Joseph Mancini. "We all witnessed how the engineered beaches and dunes in Surf City, Harvey Cedars and part of Brant Beach, survived the wrath of Superstorm Sandy and protected the properties to the west of them. The remainder of LBI will have the same security and peace of mind. I would like to thank the DEP, the Army Corps, our legislators and the LBI municipalities, who have worked so hard collectively, to bring this project to fruition."
Mayor Mancini is doing some serious butthole licking. Not all the people are happy. Furthermore if they are getting the replenishment dollars they should at least put up some portable toilets along the way. just my .02
buckethead
05-10-2015, 02:52 PM
really is hard to imagine catching that many fish buckethead. If I catch 10 in a night I am ecstatic! 30 to 40 would be the mother lode. Thanks for sharing that. From what I have read here and other places it will be the dead sea. What ashame.
You folks who cant imagine it need to go out front and see what they are doing to the jetties in deal and long branch. Then look at some of the photos on this site to see the old jetties. In the end its the folks with the money who will control all the access.
buckethead
05-11-2015, 10:52 AM
Every time I go fishing in moco the jetty areas have shrunk just a little more. It is devastating to see and know they are wasting our tax dollars.
seamonkey
05-31-2015, 11:51 AM
I don't have a lot of experience fishing those waters. Hearing more and more how they will be covered. If all the people are upset how come they didn't fight before hand. I saw a lot of stories about spear fishermen fishing off the fronts of jetties. You would of thought that there would at least be some protest from them.
Maybe this is a stupid question. Wouldn't they be losing like half of their fishing spots when they cover everything over?
finchaser
05-31-2015, 12:57 PM
We did for over 6 months you can't win against the army corp of morons who awarded the contract before the public hearings even ended. Plus Pallone needed his town protected and really pushed for it the fishermans friend my a_s.
buckethead
06-02-2015, 02:24 PM
Read something bittersweet but nice in an online blog by Joseph wichnick. Titled Dear Darlington. I thought he captured some of the feelings some of us have had for those jetties over the years.
http://amofins.blogspot.com/2015/05/dear-darlington.html
"Like the painfully agonizing loss of a true love, one may question whether it was better to have had the pleasure of her short-lived accompaniment and those resultant fond flashbacks landed throughout years of rock-hopping, than to have never been introduced to her at all. To have never savored at the sweet surrender of sugar spoiling one’s taste to all else that is far lesser. To never worry that it will only be impossible to find the fine qualities of her likeness in another. To carry the burden of bearing witness to a theft of littoral longevity. "
jigfreak
06-16-2015, 09:12 AM
Found these on the average anglers site. Makes you want to puke looking at them.
buckethead
08-03-2015, 09:38 PM
Looking at these photos you can see some of the real reasons behind beach replenishment. Does the town want 15 fishermen fishing on each beach. Or 750 tourists per square mile. Who do you think will be spending more money per head?
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2015/08/an_aerial_view_of_jam-packed_jersey_shore_beaches.html
jigfreak
08-07-2015, 12:42 PM
Well at least they had enough sense to save Wreck Pond.
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2013/10/spring_lake_moves_projects_to_curb_wreck_pond_floo ding_overflow_forward.html
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/news/news/552015/approved/20150723a.html
http://www.nj.gov/dep/wreckpond/
jigfreak
08-07-2015, 12:50 PM
Looking at these photos you can see some of the real reasons behind beach replenishment. Does the town want 15 fishermen fishing on each beach. Or 750 tourists per square mile. Who do you think will be spending more money per head?
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2015/08/an_aerial_view_of_jam-packed_jersey_shore_beaches.html
Def the tourists.
njdiver
08-07-2015, 03:14 PM
Follow the sand and follow the money to move it and where they both go.
surferman
08-10-2015, 03:26 PM
Replenishment just doesn't work.
Check this out. Wonder what the ACOE will have to say about it?
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/08/10/some-avalon-beaches-close-due-to-dangerous-drop-offs/
buckethead
08-10-2015, 03:49 PM
I don't think they will say anything as they are the cause of the problem.
http://articles.philly.com/2015-04-14/news/61108226_1_beaches-strathmere-mayor-martin-pagliughi
"Posted: April 14, 2015 AVALON, N.J. - Residents of Avalon and visitors to the borough should expect to begin hearing the sounds of dredging early next month as a $6.3 million beach-replenishment project gets underway.
The work on the borough's north-end beaches is expected to be completed by the Fourth of July, and it will cost far less than initially anticipated, officials said.
Under the contract Avalon Borough Council unanimously awarded last week to Great Lakes Dredge & Dock Co. L.L.C. of Oak Brook, Ill., 700,000 cubic yards of sand will be pumped from Eighth Street south to 26th Street, according to Mayor Martin Pagliughi.
The project will be Avalon's first major beach fill since March 2013, when emergency repairs were made five months after Hurricane Sandy hit."
njdiver
08-10-2015, 05:26 PM
UPDATE: Boy Injured In Sand Collapse On Surf City Beach In Stable Condition Child was flown by helicopter to a nearby trauma center Originally posted on the Barnegat-Manahawkin, NJ Patch (http://patch.com/new-jersey/barnegat-manahawkin)
By Patricia A. Miller (Patch Staff) (http://patch.com/users/patricia-a-miller) August 10, 2015
by Patricia A. Miller
A 12-year-old boy was injured in a sand accident at the 17th Street beach in Surf City this afternoon, Borough Councilman Peter Hartley confirmed.
Hartley - who is also a longtime Surf City Fire Department member and former chief - said he was at home when he was told about the accident early this afternoon.
"I was seven blocks away and got there in two minutes," Hartley said. "When I got there, he was breathing."
Lifeguards and beach goers had pulled the boy out the the sand when it collapsed. Initially he was not breathing, but began breathing after he was given cardiopulmonary resuscitation, he said.
Hartley had already called the Ocean County Sheriff's Department to arrange for a helicopter to transport the boy to a trauma center. Paramedics met the helicopter at the Ethel Jacobsen School in Surf City. The boy was then flown to Cooper University Medical Center in Camden, Hartley said.
'We passed him off in stable condition," he said. "Our emergency response system worked like it was designed to.'
Hartley said he is waiting to hear back from the boy's father to see how he is doing.
Many are already commenting on the accident on Facebook. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/SurfCity.NJ/?fref=nf)
The Harvey Cedars Beach Patrol recently warned visitors about the dangers of digging large holes (http://patch.com/new-jersey/barnegat-manahawkin/digging-deep-holes-beach-dangerous-prohibited-0)in the sand.
http://patch.com/new-jersey/ramsey-nj/s/f6gqw/breaking-child-injured-in-sand-accident-on-surf-city-beach
njdiver
08-10-2015, 05:51 PM
By Craig McCarthy | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com (http://cloud.siteencore.com/v1/loading.html#rotftwetu=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3Lmdvb2dsZS5 jb20vdXJsJTNGc2ElM0R0JTI2cmN0JTNEaiUyNnElM0QlMjZlc 3JjJTNEcyUyNmZybSUzRDElMjZzb3VyY2UlM0R3ZWIlMjZjZCU zRDElMjZ2ZWQlM0QwQ0I4UXFRSXdBR29WQ2hNSTlMck90TDZme HdJVmhEOC1DaDNrWEEyaCUyNnVybCUzRGh0dHAlMjUzQSUyNTJ GJTI1MkZ3d3cubmouY29tJTI1MkZjYXBlLW1heS1jb3VudHklM jUyRmluZGV4LnNzZiUyNTJGMjAxNSUyNTJGMDglMjUyRnNhbmR fY2xpZmZzX2ZvcmNlX2JlYWNoX2Nsb3N1cmVzX2F0X2plcnNle V9zaG9yZS5odG1sJTI2ZWklM0RhaHZKVmZUZEZZVF8tQUhrdWJ XSUNnJTI2dXNnJTNEQUZRakNORnZzTXMtN0JZclZITnlPdjAyQ WdZS3Rrb3ZvZyUyNmJ2bSUzRGJ2Ljk5ODA0MjQ3JTJDZC5jV3c %3D&ibothsahtrtd=aHR0cCUzQS8vY29ubmVjdC5uai5jb20vc3RhZ mYvY3JhaWdtY2NhcnRoeS9wb3N0cy5odG1s&shtlp=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3Lm5qLmNvbS9jYXBlLW1heS1jb3Vu dHkvaW5kZXguc3NmLzIwMTUvMDgvc2FuZF9jbGlmZnNfZm9yY2 VfYmVhY2hfY2xvc3VyZXNfYXRfamVyc2V5X3Nob3JlLmh0bWw% 3D&otisu=aHR0cCUzQS8vYWRzLmFkdmFuY2UubmV0L1JlYWxNZWRp YS9hZHMvY2xpY2tfbHguYWRzL3d3dy5uai5jb20vLy8vL0NsaW NrL05KT05MSU5FL0FkU3VwcGx5MDJfTkpfUm9TX1BvcHVuZGVy XzAxL2Fkc3VwcGx5LWNsaWNrcy5odG1sLw%3D%3D&x=0&y=106&w=1382&h=744&t=14392431656041&tokenID=UOXCC20PBWLEUJGGYLECF4WPAJ6596C6&s=c2l0ZWVuY29yZS5jb20%3D) South Jersey Newspapers
on August 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM, updated August 10, 2015 at 11:37 AM
AVALON (http://cloud.siteencore.com/v1/loading.html#rotftwetu=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3Lmdvb2dsZS5 jb20vdXJsJTNGc2ElM0R0JTI2cmN0JTNEaiUyNnElM0QlMjZlc 3JjJTNEcyUyNmZybSUzRDElMjZzb3VyY2UlM0R3ZWIlMjZjZCU zRDElMjZ2ZWQlM0QwQ0I4UXFRSXdBR29WQ2hNSTlMck90TDZme HdJVmhEOC1DaDNrWEEyaCUyNnVybCUzRGh0dHAlMjUzQSUyNTJ GJTI1MkZ3d3cubmouY29tJTI1MkZjYXBlLW1heS1jb3VudHklM jUyRmluZGV4LnNzZiUyNTJGMjAxNSUyNTJGMDglMjUyRnNhbmR fY2xpZmZzX2ZvcmNlX2JlYWNoX2Nsb3N1cmVzX2F0X2plcnNle V9zaG9yZS5odG1sJTI2ZWklM0RhaHZKVmZUZEZZVF8tQUhrdWJ XSUNnJTI2dXNnJTNEQUZRakNORnZzTXMtN0JZclZITnlPdjAyQ WdZS3Rrb3ZvZyUyNmJ2bSUzRGJ2Ljk5ODA0MjQ3JTJDZC5jV3c %3D&ibothsahtrtd=aHR0cCUzQS8vbmouY29tL2NhcGUtbWF5LWNvd W50eQ%3D%3D&shtlp=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3Lm5qLmNvbS9jYXBlLW1heS1jb3Vu dHkvaW5kZXguc3NmLzIwMTUvMDgvc2FuZF9jbGlmZnNfZm9yY2 VfYmVhY2hfY2xvc3VyZXNfYXRfamVyc2V5X3Nob3JlLmh0bWw% 3D&otisu=aHR0cCUzQS8vYWRzLmFkdmFuY2UubmV0L1JlYWxNZWRp YS9hZHMvY2xpY2tfbHguYWRzL3d3dy5uai5jb20vLy8vL0NsaW NrL05KT05MSU5FL0FkU3VwcGx5MDJfTkpfUm9TX1BvcHVuZGVy XzAxL2Fkc3VwcGx5LWNsaWNrcy5odG1sLw%3D%3D&x=0&y=106&w=1382&h=744&t=14392431656061&tokenID=UOXCC20PBWLEUJGGYLECF4WPAJ6596C6&s=c2l0ZWVuY29yZS5jb20%3D) - An incident of dangerous erosion at the Jersey Shore this weekend forced a borough to close several of its beaches.
According to reports on social media, the high tide and strong winds in Avalon on Saturday afternoon carved out a line of dangerous cliffs in the sand, called scarps.
The Avalon Beach Patrol was forced to close its beaches on the north-end between Ninth and 24th Street due to the erosion, the Seven Mile Times reports. People were advised by the patrol to stay away from the collapsing embankments and were not allowed in the water.
According to the Avalon Department of Public Works, scarps are not uncommon after a beach replenishment project, which the borough just finished about a month ago, the Press of Atlantic City reports.
Swimmers were allowed to head back in the water Sunday afternoon but only in water less than waist-deep (http://cloud.siteencore.com/v1/loading.html#rotftwetu=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3Lmdvb2dsZS5 jb20vdXJsJTNGc2ElM0R0JTI2cmN0JTNEaiUyNnElM0QlMjZlc 3JjJTNEcyUyNmZybSUzRDElMjZzb3VyY2UlM0R3ZWIlMjZjZCU zRDElMjZ2ZWQlM0QwQ0I4UXFRSXdBR29WQ2hNSTlMck90TDZme HdJVmhEOC1DaDNrWEEyaCUyNnVybCUzRGh0dHAlMjUzQSUyNTJ GJTI1MkZ3d3cubmouY29tJTI1MkZjYXBlLW1heS1jb3VudHklM jUyRmluZGV4LnNzZiUyNTJGMjAxNSUyNTJGMDglMjUyRnNhbmR fY2xpZmZzX2ZvcmNlX2JlYWNoX2Nsb3N1cmVzX2F0X2plcnNle V9zaG9yZS5odG1sJTI2ZWklM0RhaHZKVmZUZEZZVF8tQUhrdWJ XSUNnJTI2dXNnJTNEQUZRakNORnZzTXMtN0JZclZITnlPdjAyQ WdZS3Rrb3ZvZyUyNmJ2bSUzRGJ2Ljk5ODA0MjQ3JTJDZC5jV3c %3D&ibothsahtrtd=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3LnByZXNzb2ZhdGxhbnRpY 2NpdHkuY29tL25ld3MvYnJlYWtpbmcvYXZhbG9uLW5vcnRoLWV uZC1iZWFjaGVzLXJlb3BlbnMtdG8tc3dpbW1lcnMvYXJ0aWNsZ V9lZjExZDUxNC0zZWE5LTExZTUtYjMxOS1hZjhkYThkZGQ4MmI uaHRtbA%3D%3D&shtlp=aHR0cCUzQS8vd3d3Lm5qLmNvbS9jYXBlLW1heS1jb3Vu dHkvaW5kZXguc3NmLzIwMTUvMDgvc2FuZF9jbGlmZnNfZm9yY2 VfYmVhY2hfY2xvc3VyZXNfYXRfamVyc2V5X3Nob3JlLmh0bWw% 3D&otisu=aHR0cCUzQS8vYWRzLmFkdmFuY2UubmV0L1JlYWxNZWRp YS9hZHMvY2xpY2tfbHguYWRzL3d3dy5uai5jb20vLy8vL0NsaW NrL05KT05MSU5FL0FkU3VwcGx5MDJfTkpfUm9TX1BvcHVuZGVy XzAxL2Fkc3VwcGx5LWNsaWNrcy5odG1sLw%3D%3D&x=0&y=106&w=1382&h=744&t=14392431656071&tokenID=UOXCC20PBWLEUJGGYLECF4WPAJ6596C6&s=c2l0ZWVuY29yZS5jb20%3D) due to strong current and rip tides, the report says.
http://www.nj.com/cape-may-county/index.ssf/2015/08/sand_cliffs_force_beach_closures_at_jersey_shore.h tml
jigfreak
08-11-2015, 08:02 AM
Just to recap
The one kid in surf city gets caught in one of the collapses. He stops breathing. They are real lucky he didn't die.
The other stuff in avalon causes them to shut the beaches entirely because they were a danger to the public safety.
It's a shame you can't sue municipalities because these would be multi million dollar lawsuits.
What's it going to take before they admit failure. Does some one's kid have to really die before they take action?
hookedonbass
08-11-2015, 08:28 AM
I was told that you can never sue a town or a police dept unless you can prove gross negligence and they are protected against pretty much everything else. Maybe sue the ACOE is that possible?
seamonkey
08-11-2015, 09:12 AM
The Army Corps of Engineers is like the great Oz - knows all, sees all. In reality they have to be true dumbasses not to be able to predict that things like this would happen. They are the ones that do the engineering calcs and have college degrees. With all the science behind them they really seem to have goofed here. Come down to Cape May and all the tourists will tell you how they love the beaches. However they ruined them. There was no danger before unless you were in a low lying area. We have some of them in Cape May and the floods havent really changed. But the beaches have. They buried most of the jetties. For what? Being that Cape May is a Cape we will always get the storms and noreasters doing Winter damage. The sand smoothing that they are doing just makes the towns more dependent on that type of fix. I'm no scientist but even I can see that the science isn't working here. They are so pigheaded they just won't listen.
I hope it doesn't happen, but maybe it will take someone's child to get suffocated before someone will start to question these methods. They just don't work. jmo
buckethead
08-11-2015, 07:24 PM
Well said seamonkey. I feel the same way. They are like the 800lb gorilla that does whatever it wants to. They have no accountability. I wonder how our citizens would react if they lived under a gov't where the police and elected officials had no accountability and could do whatever they wanted. Sure we have problems with our police and govt now, from corruption to harassment. Still there is a responsibility to stay within the law and the ones that don't are eventually brought to justice. The ACOE has not been held to simple standards. Even something as simple as environmental impact statement, which every large wetlands developer has been subject to, is not even on the table for the ACOE. They do seem untouchable and it is very frustrating.
hookset
08-11-2015, 07:42 PM
Check out the latest casualty of beach replenishment
Swimmer pulled from ocean in Sea Bright dies
http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2015/08/11/update-swimmer-pulled-ocean-sea-bright-dies/31463033/
njdiver
08-25-2015, 04:08 PM
Army Corps of Engineers New York District's Biological Monitoring Program for the Atlantic Coast of New Jersey, Sea Bright to Manasquan Inlet, Beach Erosion Project
The report describes results of during-construction (1997) and first- and second-year post-construction (1998, 1999, & 2000) studies as well as comparisons with the pre-construction
results (1994-1996).
http://www.nan.usace.army.mil/Missions/CivilWorks/ProjectsinNewJersey/SandyHooktoBarnegatInlet/BiologicalMonitoringProgram.aspx
lostatsea
08-25-2015, 07:15 PM
Thanks for sharing that.
I found this paragraph-
Potential impacts to the fish community from the beach nourishment project could occur through several processes. The placement of sand on the beach buries, at least temporarily, existing benthic habitat, which may reduce the availability of infauna to benthic feeders. The burial of the groins may reduce the value of these structures as foraging and shelter sites.
Additionally, the physical disturbance caused by dredging and
the pumping of sand onto the beach may also affect fish distribution patterns.
Elevated turbidity can negatively affect the physiology and feeding behavior of some fishes (reviewed in LaSalle et al. 1991, Wilber and Clarke submitted) and presumably could make areas of shoreline that are being nourished unsuitable for some surf zone inhabitants.
Duh! Pretty obvious isn't it?:bucktooth:
Monty
08-25-2015, 09:26 PM
Thanks for sharing that.
I found this paragraph-
Potential impacts to the fish community from the beach nourishment project could occur through several processes. The placement of sand on the beach buries, at least temporarily, existing benthic habitat, which may reduce the availability of infauna to benthic feeders. The burial of the groins may reduce the value of these structures as foraging and shelter sites.
Additionally, the physical disturbance caused by dredging and
the pumping of sand onto the beach may also affect fish distribution patterns.
Elevated turbidity can negatively affect the physiology and feeding behavior of some fishes (reviewed in LaSalle et al. 1991, Wilber and Clarke submitted) and presumably could make areas of shoreline that are being nourished unsuitable for some surf zone inhabitants.
Duh! Pretty obvious isn't it?:bucktooth:
Absolute f'cken morons.
Is the nicest thing I can say for anyone who had anything to do with pushing the beach replenishment agenda.
DarkSkies
11-20-2015, 10:16 AM
Here's an oldie for ya, Monty....:HappyWave:
Bay head beach, circa 2005 after Hurricane Wilma
porgy75
02-02-2016, 10:36 AM
Check out this company rcaerialpro.com
They do everything. Awesome before and after storm pics as well.
http://www.rcaerialpro.com/winter-storm-jonas-erosion/#
dogfish
11-18-2017, 11:22 AM
Seems like it's all about political patronage. Don't know jersey, though it does appear to be a waste of money.
jigfreak
11-19-2017, 12:38 PM
Def a waste. Many of the jetties are no longer covered with sand.
buckethead
11-28-2017, 03:39 PM
They are working on Belmar again. This is a multimillion dollar farce, never ending.
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