Good number of boats off Squan now. Anyone got the intel? What's the dilly-o?
Finchaser? Finchaser? Where's that intel chain hookup dark was promoting in your name? Would be nice if there was a phone app for the finchaser hotline.;):HappyWave:
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Good number of boats off Squan now. Anyone got the intel? What's the dilly-o?
Finchaser? Finchaser? Where's that intel chain hookup dark was promoting in your name? Would be nice if there was a phone app for the finchaser hotline.;):HappyWave:
Guys are posting on Betty and nicks its nice bass, boats, they sounded charge for the beach guys but some reported back not in range. some boaters reported lie from Ortley
Ditto to both^^^^^^^they were lies fish were in 30'
B&N lied yesterday and today he hasn't weighed a fish in a week. read the head boat reports of how bad fishing is and they have all been between Lavallette and the seaside pier for the past 2 days
Yesterday I was fishing moco. Found some big blues in the rain. There were some young guns fishing at the beach I was at. One of them caught a striper about 30 inches. He immediately took out his cell phone and started taking pics of the fish and the beach we were at. He was also taking pics of the other surfcasters including me. When I asked me what the hell he was doing, he said:
"Oh dude no worries, these are for my facebook page!"
I said - hey you could have asked, maybe I don't want to be on a facebook page!
He said - no problemo, but if you want you could give me your facebook name and I will friend you.
What the hell is wrong with some of the young kids out there. I am young myself, not yet 30, but would never consider taking pics like that and immediately posting them on facebook. Now I know why when 200 guys show up for a blitz this is likely how it happens. :2flip:They are all cruising facebook every day for reports and run out when they see a pic.
By the way the dude said his name was Matt. I have his facebook ID if anyone wants it. Does anyone know this joker?
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...ons/icon13.pngsounds like a real a-hole. I don't know why fellas do that either.
Yup i no of the guy also...He is a piece of work...All about the"look at me im a facebook fishing hero"..Him and his crew...They are all the same that young "my S*** dont stink" "i no everything about everything" attitude!!! Hey i dont consider myself old at 35 and dont wanna sound like a "old"man but these guys are annoying!I dont think even when i was younger did i ever have that attitude..But thats the way most younger dudes are now...really comes down to having no respect for anything..I see it all the time not just in fishing..They have no etiquette at all..Love to muscle there little crew into spots and then go post it all over FB...I personally have grown a deep HATE for FB lol..I havent ever taken it seriously but now i just hate it.. Haha ok rant over for me...Just glad im not the only 1 thinking it
Face Book fishing hero's SU_K
^^^^^^^^ I guess everyone has to have their 15 minutes of fame.:kooky:
Which in turn ruins it for the rest of us. I like that name Matt dousherbaggins it's catchy.
I know the guy and he isnt a bad guy at all, I had a discussion with him last fall about spot burning and he thought it was all BS he seems to have totally turned around on that
but what he doesnt realize or care is people watch him for activity, last i knew, last season anyway he didn't work, I have come across more then a few non working fisherman over the years who have mystery resources, and it puts you in a whole higher stratesphere for fishing success
Sharkhart I agree, but if the guy is still mugging people he hasnt learned anything. I think I ran into him and his crew in nomoco in June this year.
^^^^Blazin I agree. When did fishing become so important that dudes will have to ruin it for others just so they get into the action? I don't know if this is the same guy but it sounds like it!
In June there was a week of big fish on the beach in nomoco. I took off work for 2 days and didn't get one fish despite running all over. The thing that was frustrating was these fish would come in for 15 minutes at a time and if you could cast a mile you might have a chance of getting one. On average I would say if 30 guys were fishing there might be one or two stripers caught. One of those days there were a lot of guys crowded on the beach casting. There was not a lot of room. This guy and his two friends came up between me and another guy. There was only about 8 feet between me and the other guy and one of them jumped in the line and started casting. Then when the guy next to me caught a nice 25 pounder and moved back to unhook his fish the other 2 jumped in. They did not even acknowledge him or me they just jumped in, mugged us and started casting. Of course they didn't catch fish the guy next to me caught one of only 4 fish that afternoon.
What gets to me is they had no manners. The guy they mugged got mad and left. I should have said something but didn't. As they were talking to each other (they would not talk to us) one of the guys called the other guy Matt. Don't know if it was the Matt you are all talking about but the way blazin420 described it it might have been? As they left the one named Matt got into a black car. Next time I WILL say something because it was so rude and elitist!
This is part of the problem out there the rudeness. I think if we all start saying something to these muggers it might make a difference.
Yup VS sounds like you were "Doucherbaggined"...haha...Im sure he is an ok guy i have only talked to him maybe once or twice but his actions speak alot louder than his words! And his actions tell me he is a ******...
I was never like this but some young dudes have trouble standing on their own they have to go out in packs of 5 or 6 or wont go on their own.
The problem spot I dont go to much but when I do I go 1.5 earlier when I think the bite will be on the tide turn, the ones you are talking about show up about a min before the key time and getting a spot doesn't even factor into their thinking.
I had taken a step or two back to undue a quick line cross and a guy stepped dead in front of me. Then I had guys grouping up to chit chat with their rods stretched out and if i hadnt seen that It would shattered both our rods, then when I say hey buddy you got to move, it makes me feel like im the bad guy.
You guys who are not on facebook are missing out.
Some of the grains of precious facebook wisdom I have been reading recently, regarding fishing in NJ right now
"This is only the beginning! Heard there is a big body of fish coming from Montauk and they are on herring! When they get here it will be even better!"
"Wow this is truly epic! I fished all day, in the morning got into a 30 minute blitz and my friends and I got over 10 stripers apiece! Some of them were up to 27 inches. Awesome day out there get out there now!"
(so most of your fish were caught in a 30 minute window and thats epic to you? ROFL)
"I caught 22 stripers today but they were all shorts. Hope the big ones get here soon!"
"This fishing is lights out. Best fishing I have ever seen! I got 5 stripers and one blue today and left them biting!"
"Fished ortley and it was fantastic! Bent rods up and down the beach! The most awesome bite in my life!"
(Yeah if your life began 3 years ago, it truly would be)
And what is it with the photo opp guys posting instantly in realtime?
I caught 2 short bass in a row last night on 2 casts. The rest of the night I had to cast and cast to get fish, and did miss a few. Unfortunately when I got my biggest fish there were people around and I got mugged. Guy was on his cell phone telling his buddies as he came within range. Are you effing kidding me? Real time fishing reports blabbing to the world exactly when and where you got them with gps coordinates tagged into the photo. Unbelievable.
I told him, dude you have exactly 3 seconds to get the eff out of my face and step off or I'm shoving your cell phone up your A**. He moved away real quick after that. What is this world coming to that we are seeking glory from someone else's fish instead of seeking and hunting for our own? I just don't get it.
Got to keep it real. Thanks.
I don't understand why folks do that either. Like shooting yourself in the foot.
Agreed
My rant of the day--My instict is to help a genuine person seeking help. So on B&n page guy inquires about if fishing in back bay is good now. I have been fishing it going and leaving the beach its dead this year just barren. So i say its dead i been fishing it but someone not fishing may come along and say its loaded...............within mins first someone says 50 lber caught there. Then another guy says its Good in the bay now..i am immediatly skeptical....i press him on it and i phrase it about first hand catces. He comes back vague with fish to teens and 20lbs...i say how many a trip are YOU getting......he says oh. I dont fish out back.......but he will send some poor guy back there for the skunk.
The thing that seems to be a common thing now is guys sit at home. They wait for the reports to come pouring in then run out in full force. I only believe half of what I read. The new practice is to take reports you "heard" someone was catching and assume that's the rate of activity for everyone. Someone catches a 20 pounder. Everyone else is catching runts. You can better believe the facebook report will focus on the 20lbs when that might just be an anomaly. I would be interested to know how many 50pounders were caught in a spot. My guess would be not many. my .02
Chasing any fishing reports will never make you a good fishermen time in and that alone is how you become consistent at surfcasting.
Yeah and you have to throw some skunks in there too! The latest generation of kids out there is lazy! They want to get a job out of college and be president of the company in 6 months. They only want to work 40 hours a week tho. SMH
rofl
You can trace part of it to the selfie revolution. Everything is me, me, me. Facebook and social media play into that. The bosses where I work hire a lot of interns for the summer. About one in 15 is actually any good and puts effort into it. They don't realize if they do well on the internship they will probably get offered a job when school is over. Still, they are generally lazy, on their phones texting every chance they get. They have no initiative. The one we usually hire stands above all the rest. So easy to understand and achieve, and yet the majority don't know what it takes to get ahead in this world. The blank generation.
Compare that to the guys fishing montauk. NO information freely given. Secretive. Not sharing. My how things have changed. "They accepted me because they saw I was serious about fishing" That's what I remember when I lived in jersey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MeLQ-fubAA
Charlie in the other thread you posted a doc muller vid. I searched on him and the next one on him talks about working to catch a big striper and how no one wants to do that any more. Check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QUDBObsbnc
It's old school vs new school.
old school- you knew anything good in life, came at a price. To succeed in life you had to work hard. Same thing for fishing the surf. Learn time, tides, bait, presentation. All that equated to time on the water. Some didn't have that time and thus hired guides like Bill Wetzel. You had to figure it out yourself or get some help by making friends who fished.
new school- comprised of a lot of younger anglers. As was sad they are less likely to work hard. By that I mean sweat and blood. For them everything is the internet. They buy clothes on the internet. Buy electronics. Even books and gadgets for their lives. It's natural for them to look for info about fishing on the internet. I think mistakes have been made when you talk about posting reports in real time. This spurs folks to run out there who may not have been fishing before, as sharkhart said. The element of "hard work" has been eliminated to a large extent.
:clapping:You are on the money about this. People are so messed up in their statements. That 50lber was caught on a kayak by a guy in the middle of the night fishing eels. How many other 50lbers were caught. I agree with you. People who don't even live down here are suddenly experts on Barney bay and fishing in general. You want to know how you learn how the fishing is? You fish it! You don't get your info from the internet hearsay and post it as factual fishing reports. Leading people to fish even when they are not there. Idiots.
Just HAD to c&p. Found on another site today. I might have said it tongue in cheek but this dude was serious. What a turd burglar. SMHQuote:
The reports are in on Facebook... already bass being caught... get out there cause facebook says so.. Let's go!
FB is so lame. Some people are on there 24 hours a day posting selfies. Who cares what you ate for breakfast or what diner you're hanging out at with your friends. In the old days there werent even fishing reports on the internet. We had to go out and make our own reports. Now people don't even want to do that anymore. Facebook is the voice of the lazy and entitled generation. So gay.
I definitely agree about making your own reports. When I am putting in the time to scout an area I don't want to let all the free-riders and leeches glom off of my hard work. There are a few good fishermen on fb. They are the ones who used to post on the internet sites and got a lot of flak from people. So they stopped and started their own pages. There is a little of the look at me factor in there too I'll give you that.
Cell phones are just as bad. Not my words. However I am seeing this more and more lately and rarely fish the Canal because of it.
"I was out 3 weeks ago and into fish. Guy nearby- didn't know I was there because I snuck in under the blackness- after every fish texted or called his friends. After. Every. Fish.30 minutes later 5 guys showed...loud and also on cells."
facebook suc_s
A whole generation of fishermen is growing up not knowing what it's like to work hard to find fish. not learning the Jubilation of keeping a log and seeing that your predictions are right for the night or day you were out there. not learning how to analyze bait and bite patterns, and capitalizing on them when the fishing is good. just going on to Facebook and chasing reports. I am so glad I am an old fart and not part of that generation.