I didn't read every page of this thread, but it seems like a good thing to do is work on the New Jersey politicians and cut down those three fish you guys are taking.
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I didn't read every page of this thread, but it seems like a good thing to do is work on the New Jersey politicians and cut down those three fish you guys are taking.
Governor Christy refused to sign 3 fish bill. But the law says if he doesn't after 30 days what ever is on the table becomes law.
Tom Fote pushed really hard for it even lying to politicians and getting the JCAA to back him with there 1200 member BS . He kept saying to everyone that if we didn't the bonus tag quota would go to another state. Striped bass is the only fish that has a non transferable quota this was told to Fote by Russ Allen of the ASMFC who over sees bass at a meeting. Russ sticks up for us as he is an avid bass fisherman.
Some more meat. captree meat wagon.
I wouldn't waste my breath. These guys don't care. During the last 2 weeks I have seen more boats parked in front of island beach and lavalette than I have since the sandeel invasion of 2012. They don't care what you or I think. After all they are only doing what the law allows them to. Sucks that each week the stripers get smaller and smaller and they still hype the bite to an unreal level. Nothing much we can do except to watch it happen.
You make good sense that there isn't a point to protest. It has to be done through the political process. Unfortunately the fishermen that should be saying something won't call or protest. We tried to galvanize groups to save the jetties from the acoe taking the wrong direction and not that many showed.
As others have said maybe a moratorium is the only thing that will work, for the second time. A lot of Captains will go out of business as the clientele contracts. That or folks will get used to targeting bluefish again. Which is the way it used to be in the early 80's.
It is a testament to greed and selfishness that the ones who have the most self-preservation at stake, the Charter and Party Boat captains, won't take an honest look at what they are doing. A lot of us killed fish in the 70's and sold them without realizing the toll it was taking on the bass population. My friends and I did it. Almost everyone we knew who caught a lot of fish did it as well. We finally realized the error of our ways. That's why I am mostly catch and release now. I think the folks who are doing the most damage now know exactly how perilous the numbers really are. Boat payments and short-sightedness prevent them from admitting it in public. We were exactly the same way in the 70's and 80's but we learned from our mistakes.
I don't think the biggest offenders today will learn until it is too late. jmo
:clapping::clapping::clapping: Well said I agree 100%. Look guys, I am realistic enough to know that calling a Captain out on his BS and raping the ocean is prob useless. I do feel that captains should know better. The people who go on the boats every day, some of them may not fish a lot or pay attention to what is going on. They are hard working people who just want to go out and catch some. It's up to the captain to explain that they're trying to keep the stripers around for the future. They do this in Fla with the redfish. Cali with the rockfish. Alaska with the salmon and halibut. They are all regulated tightly. Anglers don't complain about that. Also there are some good captains out there. There was one that would tell the clients that the striped bass is not in great shape and encourage c&r of the big girls. I think that guy was out of manasquan, anyone remember what his name was? He seemed to me to be one of the better ones. These other captains who advertise bonus plus plus,. and "get your bonus tags here!!" are all just raping the resource. Fisher price and all the others. They are the ones who should know better. And they suck for not being honest.
sooooo - who do you guys think will be the first man on the meatman leaderboard this year?
I think it's already been done. Bucktails got a keeper on clams the other day. just the one, from what I read, so no chance to pound the chest for the maximum limit plus plus.
500k for a boat? Most kids if they are lucky dad and mom buy them a new car, 30k at most. What dad buys a 500 thousand dollar boat for his kid?
Looks like he and his buddies are killing their limit of breeders every trip this year.
Stupid regulations should be changed to protect the breeders from inconsiderate irresponsible homo sapiens like them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQDoZTjw-o
down deep on the meat today
None of the charters request they want to throw back fish even when captains suggest it. I have heard this repeatedly from charter captain that I know who push for catch and release except for Johnny ducktails who goes on ego killing trips
Couldn't agree more but our extra fish come from us being a game fish state with no commercial fishery so we get there quota. This is still less than the NY recreation and commercial quotas. Some of the worse offenders are the NY Captree fleet. I still agree on the 1 fish coast wide with no commercial fishing
NY goes over quota every year on Striped bass, blackfish ,fluke and seabass they are the worst offenders on the east coast this is brought up at all meetings but Schumer gets it over looked with loopholes in NY law
I wondered if you noticed something this year or is it just me?
With the exception of the down deep out of keyport it doesn't seem that NJ Captains are posting those dock shots of the meat lined up anymore.
It seems that this one website stripersandanglers is responsible for putting a lot of pressure on them to stop this stupid practice. If so kudos to the guys who started this thread and taking the heat and abuse. Does that seem true or is it just too early in the season yet to tell?