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Originally Posted by
surfstix1963
Why can't we all be friends... I will say 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish Fact... because they put the time in Fact...It will cause family disruptions (probably part of my first marriage to end Fact... The reason is because you get hooked it is an addiction to some with no cure Fact... If you never reached that level you will never understand it,
:clapping::clapping:Amen dude!
There is even a thread on that here the dark side of surf fishing.
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...e+surf+fishing
I dont know dark skies personally but from the information he puts out there about the tides the baitfish and the migration he seems like he is pretty obsessive about fishing. If anyone would be dialed in it would be him. Bababooey I don't remember surf reports from you either. Why don't you get out there and get some instead of complaining? The weather is beautiful, why don't you get out and just FISH!:thumbsup:
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I been down this road, if you are successful and report your catches you get attacked. In the old Tiderunner days my internet detractors eventually would try to find/follow me.
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Surf fishermen/women are a very tight group and that's where the conversation stays within your group I can tell you I've fished with no more then 10 people in my life that shared with me and I shared with them and we all put a lot of time in finding these fish and comparing notes.No cell phones we just knew each other well and where we would be depending on conditions we also fished very specific spots at certain times.
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Just a reminder DS caught 23 fish he also put in 16 hours to do it little over a fish an hour most sane people do not do this as I always say he doesn't fire on all cylinders.
With him numbers are of the upmost importance they keep him off the street and fill his ego no matter what he says.
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All this hullabaloo about 1 fish per hour? Bababooey get a life. Or stop bitching and go fishing.:laugh: :fishing:
Fished nomoco this am. Water was a little dirty. 2 hours before I got the first one on bucktail outgoing tide. Picked up 4 shorts altogether.
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:don't know why:Haters gonna hate I guess. Bababooey there are fish out there. I think dark said somewhere that finchaser predicted that and why. Read the reports more you might learn something. I worked some moco stretches this morning with the sp. the surf was big and like buckethead said seemed a little dirty to me. Threw a storm shad as well. No love for me. It was real nice out though, looked like striper weather.
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Originally Posted by
storminsteve
I think dark said somewhere that finchaser predicted that and why. Read the reports more you might learn something.
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Originally Posted by
DarkSkies
It was the best of the weekend, and the best bite in a very long while....:drool:
As Fin and the other old farts pointed it there was probably a large body of fish that got pushed out of the Mud Hole and Shrewsbury Rocks by the recent frigid temps.
Those temps, coupled with the frigid bay waters, put the biggest body of fish that was here 2 weeks ago back in the Hudson/NY Bight Estuaries or on their way to the Chesapeake areas. There were no numbers of fish in the area
since that. As discussed in the
Striped bass migration thread...
Here...
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...bass+migration
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...bass+migration
Those fish that were here in Dec drastically thinned out.
But what a night it was, seemed to be wave after wave of late migrating fish. :fishing:
I am very grateful to have been out there for that action because the
robustness of that night has since
diminished....
Special thanks to the
Old Grouchy Basstard Finchaser....really wish you could have joined me out there, pal. :kiss: :HappyWave:
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Originally Posted by
DarkSkies
Tuesday 1-8-13
Monty Full Marathon.....
Couldn't figure out if the larger bass had left....or if they just got spread out more....
(Note, there are now bass being caught in the surf between Monmouth Beach and LBI)
On another site they were reporting catching bass in sea isle city, and they weren't catching there 2 weeks ago. So it appears both finchaser and dark were right on the $$, and some of the first in my knowledge in calling this bite accurately. Thanks guys as always for the helpful info. And as for knowledge dark seems to be a little more obsessive than most. My best fish of the fall were due to him, and I thank him for that. Thanks for being so generous. Don't listen to the haters dark.:HappyWave:
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Originally Posted by
SharkHart
I been down this road, if you are successful and report your catches you get attacked. In the old Tiderunner days my internet detractors eventually would try to find/follow me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWGwaXKlZEk
Ppl get jealous when you are catching and they aren't.
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Originally Posted by
storminsteve
ha ha true dat. and ds is the real deal. straight biz he yelled at me one time cuz i had a 19lb bass and i wuz sayin it wuz a 20 until he told me people wouldnt believe me no more if i hyped it up. so from me to u can believe him he shows up when the fish are there. ha ha he can smell the fish! i know he has to sleep in his car to get them we live closer to the bay than he does so we dont have to do that.
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Originally Posted by
wish4fish
ha ha true dat. and ds is the real deal. straight biz he yelled at me one time cuz i had a 19lb bass and i wuz sayin it wuz a 20 until he told me people wouldnt believe me no more if i hyped it up. so from me to u can believe him he shows up when the fish are there. ha ha he can smell the fish!
Allegedly he smells like a fish too. Or worse. Coincidence? :laugh: :HappyWave:
Fished this morning, 2 runts on buck and pork
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This thread is great entertainment guys. You can tell when people aren't catching by all the internet fights that start to break out.
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Originally Posted by
plugcrazy
This thread is great entertainment guys. You can tell when people aren't catching by all the internet fights that start to break out.
I don't think we are fighting.
I think Bababooey made an ill-advised post questioning Dark's integrity.
There are 3 things you don't question about Dark.
1. Dark's ability to find a place to sleep when he gets tired while fishing
2. Dark's ability to find a place to go the bathroom when he has to go while fishing
3. Dark's integrity
On second thought that's really only two things. Items 1 and 2 are the same place :HappyWave:
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^^^^^^^^:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::c lapping::clapping::clapping:
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Bababooey, I have banned folks before for personal attacks or threats.
But there are no time-outs here, either folks want to be here, or they don't. I don't have much time to babysit these squabbles unless they turn ugly or someone threatens someone else.....and you didn't do that....you were asking questions.....and they were fair questions....I don't view them as accusatory...because I feel you don't have the whole piece of the puzzle in front of you.....so no hard feelings....:thumbsup: :kiss: :HappyWave:
There are some things I can talk about here, and some I can't talk about.....but you and other folks reading this need to be aware that there is a larger world of experiences out there, other than what you read on the internet.......
There are fishermen out there who are capable of catching 50-100 fish a night, when the bite is hot....and we happen to have some of those right here..:HappyWave:..and others in the chain we share intel with.....I know as SharkHart said, jealousy abounds when you are catching fantastic numbers, but if you are good and focused on the bite these numbers and greatly higher numbers are possible......
That's why a lot of us don't weigh fish, or take countless pics of every fish posed at multiple angles...when the bite is hot you may only have 20-40 minutes of action, and like a game of musical chairs, you never know when it may stop.
If Finchaser, and some others here, could have been with me on the hottest night, when this bite first started (after having been a dead night bite for 2 weeks), I imagine Fin or the other anglers could have landed well over 100 fish in one night....that night of that Fri, Jan 4, was the best fishing I have had in almost a year...
http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...-Thread/page51
1. Imagine a fish hooked or missed on every 10 casts, aggressive fish busting on the surface even if you missed the hookset..:bigeyes:.
2. I couldn't go into that much detail because between Finchaser and his friends, and some other friends who fish twice a day, we were waiting for that bite, and anticipating it.......
3. We made a concerted effort to keep it quiet...and did manage that for about 48 hours, during which several guys we know all caught well over 100 fish....
4. After 48 hours, word leaked out. Now, if you go on facebook, there are virtual maps to any area where larger fish have been caught....it is so blown up that they are talking about it in Doctors offices and supermarkets.
Pebbles and I went to a soup tasting yesterday in Morris county, and some of the old time fishermen there that I met had heard of it as well....:kooky:
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As Finchaser and the old farts at Castaways B&T predicted, and in contrast to what some internet authorities were predicting, this pattern was completely different from last year.
Stormin Steve, thanks for taking the time to research and point that out. :HappyWave:
No one in the fishing world has been as accurate and insightful in predicting the whys and directions of this bite of late migrational fish than Finchaser and his crew of old Farts. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
They sit at the table at Joe's Castaways B&T every day and discuss every single aspect of what is happening at that moment, with the benefit of experience, to compare it to the multiple decades they have been fishing.....these are the guys who deserve the true credit for figuring this out......
(As mentioned, the thousands of fish that were concentrated in one area, have since spread out from Monmouth Beach to Cape May)
I'm just a foot soldier in the googan army, who happens to be relentless, once I find fish...to the point that I won't leave if I feel there is one more fish to be caught.....
And Fin is right, to an extent.....
1. This does feed our ego....
2. It's easy to catch fish when everyone else is catching.....
3. But to catch, in the middle of the night, when one night you discover what you think is a pattern..... and try to duplicate that success a night later, and find that it has shifted, or find yourself handicapped by cold water or big surf which ruins your presentation and drops your chances to catching to very small percentages......these are the challenges that I face when looking for the night bite...
4. This is the thing that some of us realize when out there....the challenge makes it like a chess game where the rules change every week.
5. Since we generally don't weigh our fish in at tackle shops, or enter contests so we can thump our chests, getting high numbers becomes part of the goal when C&R fishing......After time, you realize that even keeping one fish, will take away 5-10 minutes of valuable feeding/fishing time as you figure out where to put it safely....
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6. Anyone can do that at 4-5pm every day....that's why we have been telling folks to fish that window..it's the easiest window right now to have some success in the surf..
If you are fishing that window and not catching, you are either doing something drastically wrong, or you need a finchaser seminar.... :laugh: :thumbsup:
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Now that we have that cleared up, please try to play nice, people...
Most of you have realized I can't generate threads at the rate I used to, family, work, and fishing are ahead of that...and I greatly appreciate those who are stepping up to create more threads.....
This site is all about you folks, your needs, and your concerns....without you who contribute it would be nothing....and I thank you from the bottom of my heart......
As for those who stuck up for my integrity, I thank you sincerely...
Integrity is the only thing I have as a fisherman.......
1. As a general rule I underestimate the size of the fish I catch, especially the teen fish. As wish4fish confirmed I sometimes encourage others to do that too unless they are weighing it on on an official scale....
2. There are many respected fishermen in the surf community who we know not to be truthful....I get that....in fact when someone claims to have done fantastically well in impossible conditions, sometimes I get asked to go out there to see if it was possible for him to have gotten those results,....and there are times that I have caught folks being untruthful.....
3. I can say this because I know the waters I fish like the back of my hand...if something happened to me tomorrow that I became blind or crippled I could still find fish, if I could get out there....but it has taken many years to be able to put the conditions and tides together that one will find fish on..and many years of not catching regularly, to learn when it's time to move on.....
4. Folks may not realize that I often make from 5-8 different stops a night to find the fish...
5. I push it so hard when I'm out there that frequently I don't have enough energy to drive home and have to pull over somewhere to get an hour or 2 sleep. There is no half-a**** effort when I'm out there...I put all of my energy into finding the fish.....even talking takes up too much energy...
6. It's all about the quest to find that 1 fish in 1000 that no one thinks is there....
**Some of you have mentioned me being obsessive.....I have to admit to that...:kooky: :laugh:...
I am obsessive about
a. different types of forage,
b. tides,
c. presentation,
d. feeding windows,
e. duration,
f. swell,
g. water temps..
h. and logging it all.....
these are the things that allow me to catch more than one, once I find them.....
And, as Monty and others so charitably mentioned, :moon:
a. sleeping in my car or a public bathroom.....:upck:
b. Not bathing for up to 2 days at a time.....
c. smelling like a dumpster (that basstard Finchaser greatly exxagerates everything....):moon: :laugh:
d. Going with a few hours sleep for days on end..are all sacrifices I have made, to find and stay on a bite when it develops......
You're less likely to catch a bigger bass in the middle of a sunny day at high noon....than at 2am........(all other things being equal, and not accounting for bunker blitzes)..and that's what I'm looking for each trip out....
Now please try to play nice, there are fish to be caught......:fishing:
Thanks again for all the kind words, for those who responded...:HappyWave:
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Remember folks, it's not about when you want to fish....
It's about when the fish want to feed......
"The fish wait for no one......" :learn:
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Report Fri 1-11-13
New Moon fishing in churned up water.....
The end of day was probably the best bite and warmest water....but I was out with Pebbles and didn't get out till later in the tide.
First stop I was optimistic because I landed 2 short fish within 10 minutes of plugging, but it went downhill after that after the water temp dropped....managed 3 more in the 45 mins....then stayed another half hour because I got one small bump (I have explained before that the bumps are usually the larger fish, schoolies are much more aggressive especially in cold water).....
Kept working different beaches, somehow I ended up running into that internet troublemaker SharkHart, ;) one of the top tiderunner C&R weakfish anglers in NJ.....:HappyWave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XELPQpNY2Q
Between us we covered 6 different stops, only had bass at 2 of them...in the rest of the night, the fishing was dismal as we each hooked and lost a few. I ended up with 6 short bass.
Just to be clear, the last few hours before dawn only produced very limited action for each of us, fishing as hard as we could, moving constantly to try looking for that action.....it was SLOWER than a slow pick.....
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What hampered us was the building swell and increasing duration...and the fact that it had been blowing SE for a few hours beforehand with heavy rain.....
There is a thread on that here for anyone who wants to learn.
The duration went from 9 seconds, very fishable...to 3 seconds with some double waves..basically a washing machine of churning dirty water....even bucktails did not cut it for us........if we could have waited a few hours might have gotten some more fish, but it was not really productive and we decided to call it a night......
Always a pleasure to fish with the elusive SharkHart...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9H_Mfscwfc
even though I'm anti social, http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...cons/icon8.png..... I would fish with ya again....:thumbsup:
What worked:
ML swimmer, magnum bombers
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Been awhile :HappyWave: Without checking the tide or having the slightest clue as to what's going on out there I decided to take a trip :fishing: Tried a few plugs and some rubber with no luck :don't know why: fished 4-7pm
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5 small dinks this morning on buck and pork. Water is still dirty swell is getting a little smaller. Hardly any wind good conditions out there other than the dirty water.
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Nice going jigfreak.
Fyi for you and me and anyone else who knows how to catch fish, an internet fishermen was talking about your forum on another site this morning, dark. I don't know what you did over there because your site name got censored?
The quote:
"On ******************.com, the regulars are slaughtering (oops) 20 to 30 shorts a night."
Haters are all over. The guy who was talking about you never fishes, never posts a report, and has nothing but negativity. Haters gonna hate, cause all they do is masturbate.:laugh:
My report - fished this morning and I did NOT catch 20 to 30 fish. I should just quit now.:2flip: :ROFLMAO NOT! :HappyWave: