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My rant of the day--My instict is to help a genuine person seeking help. So on B&n page guy inquires about if fishing in back bay is good now. I have been fishing it going and leaving the beach its dead this year just barren. So i say its dead i been fishing it but someone not fishing may come along and say its loaded...............within mins first someone says 50 lber caught there. Then another guy says its Good in the bay now..i am immediatly skeptical....i press him on it and i phrase it about first hand catces. He comes back vague with fish to teens and 20lbs...i say how many a trip are YOU getting......he says oh. I dont fish out back.......but he will send some poor guy back there for the skunk.
The thing that seems to be a common thing now is guys sit at home. They wait for the reports to come pouring in then run out in full force. I only believe half of what I read. The new practice is to take reports you "heard" someone was catching and assume that's the rate of activity for everyone. Someone catches a 20 pounder. Everyone else is catching runts. You can better believe the facebook report will focus on the 20lbs when that might just be an anomaly. I would be interested to know how many 50pounders were caught in a spot. My guess would be not many. my .02
Chasing any fishing reports will never make you a good fishermen time in and that alone is how you become consistent at surfcasting.
Yeah and you have to throw some skunks in there too! The latest generation of kids out there is lazy! They want to get a job out of college and be president of the company in 6 months. They only want to work 40 hours a week tho. SMH
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You can trace part of it to the selfie revolution. Everything is me, me, me. Facebook and social media play into that. The bosses where I work hire a lot of interns for the summer. About one in 15 is actually any good and puts effort into it. They don't realize if they do well on the internship they will probably get offered a job when school is over. Still, they are generally lazy, on their phones texting every chance they get. They have no initiative. The one we usually hire stands above all the rest. So easy to understand and achieve, and yet the majority don't know what it takes to get ahead in this world. The blank generation.
Compare that to the guys fishing montauk. NO information freely given. Secretive. Not sharing. My how things have changed. "They accepted me because they saw I was serious about fishing" That's what I remember when I lived in jersey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MeLQ-fubAA
Charlie in the other thread you posted a doc muller vid. I searched on him and the next one on him talks about working to catch a big striper and how no one wants to do that any more. Check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QUDBObsbnc
It's old school vs new school.
old school- you knew anything good in life, came at a price. To succeed in life you had to work hard. Same thing for fishing the surf. Learn time, tides, bait, presentation. All that equated to time on the water. Some didn't have that time and thus hired guides like Bill Wetzel. You had to figure it out yourself or get some help by making friends who fished.
new school- comprised of a lot of younger anglers. As was sad they are less likely to work hard. By that I mean sweat and blood. For them everything is the internet. They buy clothes on the internet. Buy electronics. Even books and gadgets for their lives. It's natural for them to look for info about fishing on the internet. I think mistakes have been made when you talk about posting reports in real time. This spurs folks to run out there who may not have been fishing before, as sharkhart said. The element of "hard work" has been eliminated to a large extent.
:clapping:You are on the money about this. People are so messed up in their statements. That 50lber was caught on a kayak by a guy in the middle of the night fishing eels. How many other 50lbers were caught. I agree with you. People who don't even live down here are suddenly experts on Barney bay and fishing in general. You want to know how you learn how the fishing is? You fish it! You don't get your info from the internet hearsay and post it as factual fishing reports. Leading people to fish even when they are not there. Idiots.
Just HAD to c&p. Found on another site today. I might have said it tongue in cheek but this dude was serious. What a turd burglar. SMHQuote:
The reports are in on Facebook... already bass being caught... get out there cause facebook says so.. Let's go!
FB is so lame. Some people are on there 24 hours a day posting selfies. Who cares what you ate for breakfast or what diner you're hanging out at with your friends. In the old days there werent even fishing reports on the internet. We had to go out and make our own reports. Now people don't even want to do that anymore. Facebook is the voice of the lazy and entitled generation. So gay.
I definitely agree about making your own reports. When I am putting in the time to scout an area I don't want to let all the free-riders and leeches glom off of my hard work. There are a few good fishermen on fb. They are the ones who used to post on the internet sites and got a lot of flak from people. So they stopped and started their own pages. There is a little of the look at me factor in there too I'll give you that.
Cell phones are just as bad. Not my words. However I am seeing this more and more lately and rarely fish the Canal because of it.
"I was out 3 weeks ago and into fish. Guy nearby- didn't know I was there because I snuck in under the blackness- after every fish texted or called his friends. After. Every. Fish.30 minutes later 5 guys showed...loud and also on cells."
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A whole generation of fishermen is growing up not knowing what it's like to work hard to find fish. not learning the Jubilation of keeping a log and seeing that your predictions are right for the night or day you were out there. not learning how to analyze bait and bite patterns, and capitalizing on them when the fishing is good. just going on to Facebook and chasing reports. I am so glad I am an old fart and not part of that generation.