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Hookset...
Thank you for posting this up today. To be honest I was looking to go fluke fishing this weekend but just finished booking open boats with two of the captains on here for Saturday and Monday of this weekend. The pics you posted showed me they were on the fish and thus will get my business. To be honest maybe they should thank you too for referring business their way. Just bought my freezer bags so looking to stock up!
FB
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hookset
Next you will be on here telling us you are the biggest stud in your high school, Wow junior year must be really awesome. Will be even better when you get to be a high school senior next year
how about an intelligent discussion on any of the points mentioned above?
You know what they say about the guys who have to tell everyone about how they are the biggest stud. Light in the pants, small package. The bigger the boat the smaller the pee pee. Remember the guy in high school who had to have the flashiest car? Overcompensating for something that is lacking, jmo.
None of you mentioned any of the points hookset, bucket, clamchucker,monty or finchaser talked about.
How about it? I was fishing during the moratorium and it was barely worth it. In MA I have seen bunker go from schools that you could snag in any feeder creek or river to something that we only see when at the cape or the canal. They aren't all over like they used to be. And I have fished Maine as well. Have any of you smart mouths fished up north or out East. We used to have some of the best fishing for all sizes of stripers. Rats to cows we had it all. Now we are lucky to get 5 good weeks of fishing in the Canal spring and fall. Is there any intelligent life among all these vocal new members or is it all about poking each other and beating chests? Hookset and the others I mentioned have said some key stuff here. Would like to hear what you joisey guys have to say. And welcome aboard btw
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Freezer Burn
Hookset...
Thank you for posting this up today. To be honest I was looking to go fluke fishing this weekend but just finished booking open boats with two of the captains on here for Saturday and Monday of this weekend. The pics you posted showed me they were on the fish and thus will get my business. To be honest maybe they should thank you too for referring business their way. Just bought my freezer bags so looking to stock up!
FB
Class act you are sir.
Response to any of the previous posts on the page before? What can you tell us about the state of the striped bass fishery today. I am on all the sites and never saw a guy named freezer burn before. What is your real handle on the other sites or were you too embarassed to post that here? Your courage is inspiring.
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dogfish
. Is there any intelligent life among all these vocal new members or is it all about poking each other and beating chests? Hookset and the others I mentioned have said some key stuff here. Would like to hear what you joisey guys have to say. And welcome aboard btw
dogfish why waste time on these losers haha im a meat man too! meat man ur a poser! u too freezer burn what a queer name i keep almost all my fish but i dont brag about it dont take pics and post on the internet why post pics the fish is goin in my belly the only reson to post up all those pics of the meat is u want the whole world to kno u are the best fisherman in the planet and only u think that! haha if you like the meat so much u shud go to asbury park theres lots of guys there who will give u the meat lol
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Meat Man
Again, take your rant to someone who cares. That is right, I'll go out this weekend and keep my three fish limit. You can't do sh*t about it. I'll show you my meatballs!!! I like your Get bent logo, pretty sure your good at it.
haha i told u this dude is gay monty he wants to show you his meatBALLS!!!!!!haha lol!
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dogfish
Class act you are sir.
Response to any of the previous posts on the page before? What can you tell us about the state of the striped bass fishery today. I am on all the sites and never saw a guy named freezer burn before. What is your real handle on the other sites or were you too embarassed to post that here? Your courage is inspiring.
State of fishing looks great right now! Bunker are abundant off our coast and we have one study from VA or MD that states YOY numbers are down...that is one study in one relatively small general area. I know you will have a reply to whatever I type here but ultimately both our statements will mean nothing cause its just the internet!
PS...didn't know I had to join other sites to post here. Today happens to be my day off otherwise I don't sit at a computer all day and type about fishing...I'll just go fishing instead.
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wish4fish
dogfish why waste time on these losers haha im a meat man too! meat man ur a poser! u too freezer burn what a queer name i keep almost all my fish but i dont brag about it dont take pics and post on the internet why post pics the fish is goin in my belly the only reson to post up all those pics of the meat is u want the whole world to kno u are the best fisherman in the planet and only u think that! haha if you like the meat so much u shud go to asbury park theres lots of guys there who will give u the meat lol
Hey now Mr. or Mrs. Wish4Fish...no name calling please!!! And besides only another gay guy would know where gay guys hang out too.
FB
PS..I'll PM you for approval for my next screen name if I ever join another fishing website.
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Originally Posted by
hookset
I thought since you claim you read this thread you might have some valid points about the state of the strioed bass fishery today.
How long have you been fishing?
Did you fish for bass during the moratorium or have you only been fishing for them since you were in junior high last year?
What do your bass logs show during the last 20 years. Can you document that the bass are now healthier than ever?
What about the YOY last year showing bass at the lowest numbers ever?
What about the verfiable stats showing that the aggregate striped bass catches, coastwide, have been decliniing for the last 3 years. (except in your world)
these are all veriafiable facts I stated and can be found here or supported by a simple search on the internet. I guess when you are in high school it is hard to do these searches because they are not available as an app on your iphone.
Just 2 or 3 of the questions I asked above, show us what you know about striped bass.
Other than you telling us you are the biggest stud in the sandbox.
Next you will be on here telling us you are the biggest stud in your high school, Wow junior year must be really awesome. Will be even better when you get to be a high school senior next year
how about an intelligent discussion on any of the points mentioned above?
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Originally Posted by
Freezer Burn
State of fishing looks great right now! Bunker are abundant off our coast and we have one study from VA or MD that states YOY numbers are down...that is one study in one relatively small general area. I know you will have a reply to whatever I type here but ultimately both our statements will mean nothing cause its just the internet!
Freezerburn welcome to the site.
I have been fishing for 50 years. How long have you been in the game?
Your response gave or offered nothing of substance to the questions hookset asked or the issues that have been talked about here.
The one study that you dismiss is the yoy study of the Chesapeake fishery. This Chesapeake biomass is arguably the biggest documented mass of striped bass on the East Coast. If a study indicates the numbers are down there is a great cause for concern.
http://www.saltwatersportsman.com/sp...s-striped-bass
Would like to hear some statistics to back your statements up. Your statement that this is just the internet is indicative of the dismissiveness of many uninformed fishermen out there. Did you attend the march on washington? Do you go to any fisheries meetings? Do you involve yourself in fisheries management to learn anything or is it just enough to give one-sentence blasts on the internet because it's not serious to you. When will it become serious enough for you to learn about it or want to learn. Would appreciate hearing your detailed thoughts and responses to some of the questions that were mentioned above. Thank you
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buckethead
Freezerburn welcome to the site.
I have been fishing for 50 years. How long have you been in the game?
Your response gave or offered nothing of substance to the questions hookset asked or the issues that have been talked about here.
The one study that you dismiss is the yoy study of the Chesapeake fishery. This Chesapeake biomass is arguably the biggest documented mass of striped bass on the East Coast. If a study indicates the numbers are down there is a great cause for concern.
http://www.saltwatersportsman.com/sp...s-striped-bass
Would like to hear some statistics to back your statements up. Your statement that this is just the internet is indicative of the dismissiveness of many uninformed fishermen out there. Did you attend the march on washington? Do you go to any fisheries meetings? Do you involve yourself in fisheries management to learn anything or is it just enough to give one-sentence blasts on the internet because it's not serious to you. When will it become serious enough for you to learn about it or want to learn. Would appreciate hearing your detailed thoughts and responses to some of the questions that were mentioned above. Thank you
Hey Bucket...
No only been alive for 36 years and fishing for 7 of them for stripers and I also do a lot of ground fishing in NJ and NE so I have not been through the striper downfall nor do I state I did. I think its great you stuck with your hobby/passion this long and is a rave review for the sport in general.
I subscribe to the everything happens in cycles belief. What does up must come down and then eventually will go back up. Hey look at the housing market...same ****.
I did not dismiss the study either...just said it was one study. What other major studies are out there just out of curiosity. Do they have the major ones in New England and North Carolina as well?
Nope did not attend marches...didn't know I needed too in order to post a one liner on the internet
I attend fishing meeting regularly but they happen at my local pub with other guys who fish...not make policy
I don't involve myself in fishery mgmt...again didn't know I needed too in order to post a one liner on the internet
There you go you discredited me...did that feel good? Does it change the fact that I'm going to fish twice this weekend on a boat that I found on here and hopefully take home my two fish limit on both trips? NOPE.
No matter what damage my generation or the ones after me do to the fishing population.....it is nothing compared to how your generation raped the ocean of bass and weakfish. Remember that.
PS...40lb bass do taste good when cooked properly.
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Originally Posted by
freezer burn
hey bucket...
No only been alive for 36 years and fishing for 7 of them for stripers and i also do a lot of ground fishing in nj and ne so i have not been through the striper downfall nor do i state i did. I think its great you stuck with your hobby/passion this long and is a rave review for the sport in general.
I subscribe to the everything happens in cycles belief. What does up must come down and then eventually will go back up. Hey look at the housing market...same ****.
I did not dismiss the study either...just said it was one study. What other major studies are out there just out of curiosity. Do they have the major ones in new england and north carolina as well?
Nope did not attend marches...didn't know i needed too in order to post a one liner on the internet
i attend fishing meeting regularly but they happen at my local pub with other guys who fish...not make policy
i don't involve myself in fishery mgmt...again didn't know i needed too in order to post a one liner on the internet
there you go you discredited me...did that feel good? Does it change the fact that i'm going to fish twice this weekend on a boat that i found on here and hopefully take home my two fish limit on both trips? Nope.
No matter what damage my generation or the ones after me do to the fishing population.....it is nothing compared to how your generation raped the ocean of bass and weakfish. Remember that.
Ps...40lb bass do taste good when cooked properly.
well said, freezer burn. I'll be out this weekend too. Good luck! Catch em up.
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wish4fish
dogfish why waste time on these losers haha im a meat man too! meat man ur a poser! u too freezer burn what a queer name i keep almost all my fish but i dont brag about it dont take pics and post on the internet why post pics the fish is goin in my belly the only reson to post up all those pics of the meat is u want the whole world to kno u are the best fisherman in the planet and only u think that! haha if you like the meat so much u shud go to asbury park theres lots of guys there who will give u the meat lol
I see you've been a member since 2008. Two words for you **
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Meat Man
I thought other sites were bad but this one has it beat. Bunch of grown man whining and complaining about keeping your "Limit". This will be my only post, you guys need to get out more stop worrying about who is catching what. If you don't like it, do something about it instead hiding behind your computer ranting and posting pics from Charters and Party boats here.
Hiding behind a computer thats a joke. Both of you jokers are from the njfishing site. It would seem reasonable that you would use the screen names from over there here. You are such chickens that you had to sign here with made up goof names. Who's the man here meat man? Sorry dude you got some issues but courage is not one of them.
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Freezer Burn
Hookset...
Thank you for posting this up today. To be honest I was looking to go fluke fishing this weekend but just finished booking open boats with two of the captains on here for Saturday and Monday of this weekend. The pics you posted showed me they were on the fish and thus will get my business. To be honest maybe they should thank you too for referring business their way. Just bought my freezer bags so looking to stock up!
FB
I recognize your posting style from njfishing. I'll figure it out soon enough it will come to me. Why join here if you can't use the same name you're using there? Another afraid to stand up like a man in real life but 6 feet tall on the internet. i'm real impressed you are way cool dude
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Meat Man
You can't do sh*t about it. I'll show you my meatballs!!!
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wish4fish
haha i told u this dude is gay monty he wants to show you his meatBALLS!!!!!!haha lol!
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Freezer Burn
And besides only another gay guy would know where gay guys hang out too.
FB
Heres what I think. I think you two are fishing buddies freezer burn and meatman. You two fish together, get drunk together. and joined the site together. Do you go to the bathroom together too? Bend for a friend? It's 2013. Being gay is not for me but if you are its all good we won't judge you.
I think wish4fish called it right. With all this gay talk you guys should come out of the closet already. Your parents will understand.
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Originally Posted by
Freezer Burn
Hey Bucket...
No only been alive for 36 years and fishing for 7 of them for stripers and I also do a lot of ground fishing in NJ and NE so I have not been through the striper downfall nor do I state I did.I subscribe to the everything happens in cycles belief. What does up must come down and then eventually will go back up.
Oh so now striped bass are part of a cyclical theory? Thanks for explaining that to me I would never have known that. When I can't catch bass one night I'm going to blame it on the cyclical theory, awesome.
You are like totally awesome dude you have been fishing for bass for 7 years? :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: That is just beyond belief you are on your way to sharpie status.
7 long years. What a lifetime of bass experience you must have. No wonder you could not answer any of the questions hookset or buckethead posted here. You are probably one of the guys who catch 10 bass in a night and call it epic. Post on facebook about how great you are. Do you have a facebook page let us know I want to go there and maybe pick up some tips. I only been fishing for bass for 40 years so maybe a sharpie like you can show me how to do it.
dark these dudes have no business here. They are not part of this discussion or even trying to be. They are trolls hiding behind names they made up just to join this site. Not one ounce of courage all internet muscles. Why do you allow this dark they add nothing to the discussion here. Thats it im done with these jokers.http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...ons/icon13.png
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jigfreak
Hiding behind a computer thats a joke. Both of you jokers are from the njfishing site. It would seem reasonable that you would use the screen names from over there here. You are such nancy boys that you had to sign here with made up goof names. Who's the man here meat man? Sorry dude you got some issues but courage is not one of them.
I recognize your posting style from njfishing. I'll figure it out soon enough it will come to me. Why join here if you can't use the same name you're using there? Another little girl afraid afraid to stand up like a man in real life but 6 feet tall on the internet. i'm real impressed you are way cool dude
I found this website via a buddy (not meat man since i got no clue who he is) who was talking about what's going on at a bar...I'm 5'11 and really wasn't here looking for your opinion...rather stating the poster is actually advertising for the same people he is hating on. Nothing more...nothing less. I don't attend meetings and I don't keep stats nor do I post my pics on web forums nor do I care what you think of me because like I said...it's the Internet! Just as an FYI you shouldn't care what I say either!
Go fish. Eat em if its legal and throw em back if it will make u feel better. But for damn sake stop the bitching!!!!
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jigfreak
Oh so now striped bass are part of a cyclical theory? Thanaks for explaining that to me I would never have known that. When I can't catch bass one night I'm going to blame it on the cyclical theory, awesome.
Wow that is like totally awesome dude you have been fishing for bass for 7 years. That is just beyond belief you are on your way to sharpie status.
7 long years. What a lifetime of bass experience you must have. No wonder you could not answer any of the questions hookset or buckethead posted here. You are probably one of the guys who catch 10 bass in a night and call it epic. Post on facebook about how great you are. Do you have a facebook page let us know I want to go there and maybe pick up some tips. I only been fishing for bass for 40 years so maybe a sharpie like you can show me how to do it.
dark these dudes have no business here. They are not part of this discussion or even trying to be. They are trolls hiding behind names they made up just to join this site. Not one ounce of courage all internet muscles. Why do you allow this dark they add nothing to the discussion here. Thats it im done with these jokers.
Ur funny!!!!! Hell why do U think I got into ground fishing??? I can't catch a striper to save my life!!!
Never ONCE eluded to being a sharpie. I think u got voices in ur head.
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DarkSkies
This was in post 30 of this thread. I am asking you folks to adhere to the guidelines I set out.
I am still hoping we can have a respectful, adult, discussion here.
You are all entitled to your opinions.
Threats will not be tolerated no matter which side they came from.
**I am counting on you all to act like adults and treat each other with the same respect you would want to be treated.
1. There are no time-outs or infractions on this site.
2. We act like adults and most are good with that avoiding profanity and insults.
3. If anyone can't follow those guidelines you are not needed or welcome here.
Thank you.
Just to re-iterate Our Policy which I posted previously.
ALL are welcome to voice their opinions here under their First Amendment Rights.
Personal attacks, profanity and name calling are not.
I'll try to sort this out and moderate some of the other posts when I get a chance.
Thanks for your understanding and compliance with our Policy. :HappyWave:
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finchaser
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:^^^^^^^^we ll said. RIP had one fish and JB had 82 fish averaging 20 pounds on the same day(5/10/13) sounds like a one way street. Most back patters boat or surf think if they become friends they will be called in on bites which seldom happens as they don't share. In the end they usually find out the hard way all it accomplishes is loosing friends they trashed and abandon trying .
I don't understand this. On the water you can't cover all the ground by yourself. That's why you build up a network. Half the time we don't even use the radio we do it via cell phone. You return the favor when someone helps you that's how it works. Why would two friends not help each other. Seems to be something here more than meets the eye. Strange.:huh:
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Capt Derek Fisher Price 4
Hello. My name is Capt Derek Bielitz. I am the owner and operator of the Fisher Price IV out of the Highlands. This post was brought to my attention by one of my customers who saw it. I would first like to say that i do not personally know who anyone of you on here are or if any of you have ever fished with me before. I saw that some of my posts from other sites were pasted on here. And i will be the first to tell you that what i post is the truth. I have good days and bad days in fishing. I am a full time professional charter boat captain. This is what i do 12 months a year. I do not have any other job than fishing. I am 31 years old and have been working as a mate and captain for the past 16 years. I have seen the fishery when it was tough as well as when it had been great. I will also be the first person to say that there are not as many bass around as in recent years. I will also admit that there are more keepers around and less shorts. As for what i kill on my boat. I follow all laws in both NY and NJ waters. My customers spend their hard earned money to go out on fishing trips with me and when they like to take their limit who am i to tell them they cant. I also let my customers use their bonus cards to a certain point. I do not take my limit or my mates limit on any trip. If the customer wants to use their bonus card in the beginning of the season on a smaller fish than so be it. I do support catch and release and i can tell you i had a trip the other day where we landed 50 or 52 bass all day and only kept one fish for the table cause it was gut hooked and bleeding out. I encourage my guys to release all fish 30 lbs or bigger cause they are your breeding fish and we need to keep the stock up and have fish for our future generations to experience. This is my first and last post on this site..
You are one of the few who doesn't take a mate and boat limit. Not that it really matters you are still within the law. Well said Cappy! Class act.
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^^ X2 for Capt Derek. Never met him but he is one of the ones who stands above the others from dock talk I have heard.
I look at it this way. The more I am on the water the more chances I have to get nice bass. I really like catching them and we always bring one or two back. More than that just gets wasted. It is also a pita when you have to focus each trip on cutting and bleeding the fish and then washdown after. I cut all my fish so the meat tastes better. When the bite is good I would rather be fishing than missing out. I usually fish with one partner. When you have more on board you can delegate different jobs to the crew and it is easier to deal with more in the box. I am just saying for me, we have fun catching or jigging them. The bite is not always hot or consistent and we have to run all over for fish on the slow days. I would rather spend my time fishing. That's just me and by no means a criticism of Capt Derek or the others.
Freezerburn no disrespect meant but I think a 40lb bass has no taste at all. They are terrible eating. The tastiest size for bass is 24-32". I miss the slot limit because the 24" bass was perfect eating size and better tasting. Of course this is just my opinion
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well hookset you talked about these guys the lagrossa brothers they weighed in more fish yesterday. Whats up with that is there a tourney or something going on now?
LaGrossa, Chris |
Bass |
40″ |
27.35lbs |
Pencil Popper |
LaGrossa, Phil |
Bass |
45.5″ |
29.9lbs |
Pencil Popper |
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^^ Maybe they know a lot of poor people.:don't know why: :laugh:
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basshunter tourney is on its all about the points.
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Thats a shame why do they have to kill so many big fish? Why can't they take pics and measurements for the biggest fish and use the same brand of tape measure. Wouldn't that work?
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Attachment 17055Awesome day on da meat!!!!
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Another troll on board! Wow that is fantastic nutsinmouth i mean scuba nut.:clapping::clapping::clapping:
Did you join just to show us your picts and flex your internet muscles or do you have anything to say about the striped bass. How come you photoshopped your face out of the pic if it was such an awesome day why do you have to hide?
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The guy has no boat shoes on, no boots, nothing. Just bare toes. basshunter you have it all wrong. This is not a guy who wants us to look at his bass he wants to show off his pretty toes.:ROFLMAO
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clamchucker
Welcome to stripers and anglers johnny bucktails. I would have to very strongly disagree with your statement.
I do not mean to disenfranchise a new member here but thought I would share my perspective.
I have been fishing for over 50 years. I remember when weakfish were so abundant in the Delaware bay you could catch a hundred a day. We used to launch out of fortescue and it was easy to fill a garbage bucket or large tote with weakfish because they were that plentiful.
It is the same thing for the striped bass. I fished before and after the moratorium. I still fish now. At one time because I am retired I could fish 5 or 6 days a week. I fish less now because of health reasons. I can usually catch my limit every time. After 50 years of fishing it becomes quite easy. If I were to keep my limit every time I would not feel right because of all the opportunities I have to go out fishing. Because of how we decimated the weakfish, I am careful to catch and release now. I try to teach my children and grandchildren the principles of conservation.
Don't get me wrong, we still eat fish, but are more thoughtful about when and where. I love eating bass and it is very healthy for you except for the belly part which is laden with PCBs.
As bucket said you as a father are some one who your son looks up to. If you have lived through lean times when there were no bass, surely you would want to pass that knowledge on down to your son and teach him that harvesting just what you can eat today as a family, is a good way to keep the bass around for tomorrow.
I say this not to get into an argument with you but perhaps thinking you have not been fishing for that long and do not realize how bad things were for bass fishermen in the 1980s.
A lot of folks want to blame the commercial fishermen. Those videos are all over the internet and I believe I have seen some of them here, the bass laying all over after being discarded from netters.
What most folks don't realize is that even with the abuses, the recreational sector kille more striped bass than the commercial sector today. This happens all up and down the coast at every stage of the migration.
I am sure that you realze that the reason you folks are doing so well on them up there now in the raritan bay is because they are staging to go up the Hudson. If they were not doing that you would hardly be catching any at all. The southern waters have not had much consistent action for my Capt friends who have been looking for them. The Chesapeake and Delaware migrations are done and the beaches all along the coast should be filled with stripers now but they are not.
The reason for this is many have been over harvested, and many by folks who say "life is too short to worry about what everyone else is doing."
By not teaching your son a little about conservation and a little about the past you are part of the crowd that is condemning us to repeat the sins of the past. I say this not to provoke argument with you but to perhaps hope that you were not aware of how bad things were, and in reality how limited the numbers of stripers are now.
I hope these words have not tuned you off. If you are not aware of what has been going on, I was hoping to enlighten you and the others here by sharing my personal experiences. I look forward to your contributions here.
I am more looking forward to the possibility that you as a father, will teach your son something about conservation before it is too late and we find ourselves in another moratorium.
Best of luck this year on the water, Captain.
scubanut what would you have to say to clamchuckers post?
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scubanut what would you have to say to clamchuckers post?
Clamchucker's post is one of the best posts I have ever read in any forum on any fishing site.
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dogfish
The guy has no boat shoes on, no boots, nothing. Just bare toes. basshunter you have it all wrong. This is not a guy who wants us to look at his bass he wants to show off his pretty toes.:ROFLMAO
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: haha roflmao! What a chicken little!
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Clamchucker's post is one of the best posts I have ever read in any forum on any fishing site.
Yes monty I agree. Thank you for all the help and sage advice clamchucker you really do have a deep understanding of this. I could read your posts all day and have learned so much from them.
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:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: haha roflmao! What a chicken little!
Yes monty I agree. Thank you for all the help and sage advice clamchucker you really do have a deep understanding of this. I could read your posts all day and have learned so much from them.
cowherder BA-Zing! Good one! scubanut we would like to see more of your pretty pics, but next time please paint your toenails pink to match your level of bravery.:ROFLMAO
clamchucker thank you for the informative and knowledgable posts here. You and guys like finchaser have taught me so much thank you gentlemen.
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I thought the folks who came here to bash or justify taking every bass they can might have some comments on this. It is from colin the average anglers site .http://theaverageangler.blogspot.com
I think he makes some good points. There is no need to take a bonus tag bass. Take your limit of 2 bass I am fine with that. The bonus tag has got to go there are too many abuses and we are overharvesting because of it.
"I am not getting tree-huggy nor am I comparing fish to people. All I am saying is that I should know better than to think that I would see anything different than what I saw. Several striper trip boats coming in with boatloads of happy anglers carrying heavy, sometimes very heavy, coolers.
Boy do these fish get hammered, and harvested. Just think of the pressure they got down south, then up along New Jersey, staging in the Raritan Bay, the all haven't gone up the Hudson, then they come down, summer near the Cape, then come back through this again?
Moratorium, can you say moratorium boys? This fishery will shut down in a few years. There aren't many small fish. The big ones are still being taken no matter how many messages are sent out regarding protecting the breeding fish. Continue to take your two plus the bonus tags while you can.
This isn't a knock on just the head boats, but includes the small charter boats, the private boats, the kayakers, the surfcasters, the bait fisherman, the fly fisherman, everyone. It's the recreational fishery that's putting the big hurt on the striped bass. We, take three times more than the commercial fishery. That's not saying the infamous videos of dead striped bass last year in North Carolina isn't criminal. We need to just have a look in the mirror to figure out where the problem lies."
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Moratorium, can you say moratorium boys? This fishery will shut down in a few years. There aren't many small fish. The big ones are still being taken no matter how many messages are sent out regarding protecting the breeding fish. Continue to take your two plus the bonus tags while you can.
This isn't a knock on just the head boats, but includes the small charter boats, the private boats, the kayakers, the surfcasters, the bait fisherman, the fly fisherman, everyone. It's the recreational fishery that's putting the big hurt on the striped bass. We, take three times more than the commercial fishery.
He speaks the truth but you're preaching to the choir buckethead. The ones that need to hear it most have blinders on. The ones who blame the head boats or use lame excuses like change the law if you don't like it. They don't realize that there is a time lag between what actually happens out there and what noaa will do in terms of taking action. I agree within 2 years there will be some kind of shutdown or restrictions. Hardly any small bass around anymore.
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Riddle me this batman - many of the pro capts are still out there banging bass. the meatman bucktails is focusing on fluke. Why would you be fluking when the cows are here?:rolleyes:
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It seems when the going gets tough, the fluke fishermen go back to what they do best, fluking.
I hope this doesn't seem insensitive here. After all he is just a kid. The level of arrogance in his posts is a little disconcerting though. He has so much to learn at that young age. I am sincerely hoping that as he matures he will learn to understand the striper better and have a little more respect for the fishery. I think we all go through stages of arrogance and youthful exhuberance. I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that as he gets older he will want to learn more instead of coming off like a veteran at the ripe old age of 17.
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Even though I sense rethorical question - cause the pony played it's one trick, when they aren't schooled up in a designated area it is a different ball game.
I seen this same pattern before with Weakfish where the big fish kept getting bigger, on the surface it seems cool, but its like a bubble growing that eventually bursts.
Bunker fish used to be mostly 18-23 ish when this thing started now they are nearly all over 25lbs, with an avg about 27-30lbs.
Although though i have run into a fair amount of rats last 2 years, fish ranging 27 to 35" are the hardest to come across right now, I have three times the amount over that size then in that size this spring, cool but not cool!
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Although though i have run into a fair amount of rats last 2 years, fish ranging 27 to 35" are the hardest to come across right now, I have three times the amount over that size then in that size this spring, cool but not cool!
Agreed. There are huge gaps in numbers of fish that size. We would have more stability across the board if the fishery was not hurting. I have read it here where it is compared to a bowl of m&ms. Those who keep taking from the middle don't realize the bowl is shrinking. The lack of sheer numbers of sizes you quoted should sent out an alarm to fisheries managers. Fish that size are the prime breeders.
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Clamchucker's post is one of the best posts I have ever read in any forum on any fishing site.
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Yes monty I agree. Thank you for all the help and sage advice clamchucker you really do have a deep understanding of this. I could read your posts all day and have learned so much from them.
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clamchucker thank you for the informative and knowledgable posts here. You and guys like finchaser have taught me so much thank you gentlemen.
Thank you all. I have seen the worst of it and don't want to see it repeated. Some have mentioned I was part of the problem. I will have to agree with that. Back in the 70's there was no value on saving fish. We took as many as we could because we did not know better
. Now, folks do know better but some are still behaving the same. I think it is because there are fishermen out there who really do not understand the big picture. You can try to explain and some will get it. Most will not because they cannot conceive of striper limits being changed or the fishery being shut down. They have not lived through it so it is a fantasy world of supposition to them. I cannot help those to understand something they are not willing to accept. The only way they will learn is when (note I said when and not if) the fishery is shut down. Raising awareness is admirable but I do not know if that is enough to save us from repeating the same mistakes.
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If you don't like it, do something about it instead hiding behind your computer ranting and posting pics from Charters and Party boats here. Bunch of grown man acting like *******! LOL!!!
MEAT MAN IN THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You hyprocrite. I would love to run into you one day. LMAO!!!
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Meat Man
run your mouth in person instead of hiding behind your computer. Put an end to all this drama.
I knew I had seen this style of posting before. Meatman unmasked, Jay Santiago or Jay from the other site.
Ain't it an ironic thing that someone who is most vocal about hypocrites hiding behind a computer - is the biggest one hiding behind his computer?http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...ons/icon13.png
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** Jigfreak, one of the nicest things about this site, is that most of the members who join, want to be here.
If someone doesn't want to be here or contribute to this community, we don't want to burden them with membership priveleges either.
Banning someone isn't a decision I take lightly. I'm just helping those who aren't happy here, to find their path to go elsewhere.
However once someone is banned, they can no longer defend themselves. Therefore, I am asking all of you to refrain from bringing banned members back into the conversations, no matter how strong your feelings are about them. I have not had much spare time to devote to administering this site. I ask that you members continue to be on your best behavior.
This is a topic that will generate many strong opinions. I said I would allow it here, but please keep the posts, on topic. There are some valid points made on both sides. That's what you folks should try to continue doing, so I don't have to intervene.
Thank you. :HappyWave: