There was a punk song back in the 80's called kill for cash.
this kid is killing for the pics. Photo op look at me I am the best bass fisherman around. Catching fish on clams not too hard. The pic makes the man. (or boy in his case)
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may 14 tagged fish bonus limits
the bluefish limits are higher. how come you never see a dock filled with bluefish with the guy saying "we wanted y'all to know we kept this many because they will be given to St Mary's Opphanage. Father O'Reilly has graciously thanked us for helping alll the poor starving children. Here is a photo as we gave to the poor and Litte Martha and Timmy are hugging us they are so glad to get something other than the gruel they have been eating".
Any intelligent human being who reads the statement we gave the extra to the poor knows that is the big lie. It is all about ego. If it was not they would do the same with bluefish.
Ever hear how a boat guy loves to catch bluefish? You don't. They all complain we got covered up by bluefish couldn't get to the bass. We throw out the bunkah and the livies all got chopped in half by bluefish.
If you really are a true fisherman you appreciate all things God sends you on the end of your line. Although I have to admit I am not fond of too many dogfish.;)
The bulk of the folks who complain the loudest at being labeled meat fishermen are ones who really don't know the striper. They know fluke and sea robins. That is the top of their skill set. To move along the levels of striper fishing you have to know and understand their importance to all fish in the sea and the economic well-being of our future. These guys don't care about any of that, and are about as far advanced on the food chain as the Cro-Mags were in the caveman days. . Oh, and I also eat plenty of stripers but I do not freeze them. And I think the bonus tags you folks in NJ have, have got to go. You don't know how to be honorable with them and there are too many abuses.My 2 cents
Great post Dogfish, every time that bonus tag is used its a complete waste of a bass. I think read if it was abolished the allotment of bass that is designated for the bonus tag would be allotted to another group. What the heck is wrong with people in just saying lets reduce the killing pressure on the Striper before we kill all the breeders? The bonus tag is a blatant waste of fish.
It's amazing now how an another site a member is begging people to tell him where to fish now that the bass have spread out and you need to know how to fish skillfully to put a catch together with out bait .Even the great JB has stop posting but they will all be superstars again on Saturday when they can fluke fish.
^^X2
Love the orphanage reference! These losers are so full of ****!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc
"Not sure why since last week had great results in da bay. Marked a lot of fish. Trolled spoons, live lined , and chunked ...only think I got was skunked. Couldn't figure it out. Headed back..stopped quickly in the bay, and tossed a crippled herring and got a hit right a way. Yes! No... All blues on every single cast. Three would chase the lure in the others mouth, they were so thick.....oh well no stripers for me today. Bummed "
"the blues were a pain today. We had tough fishing also but ended up with two bass on bunker. "
"Happened to most of us yesterday unfortunately. Gotta have the **** days to enjoy the good ones. ""
The quotes above are from the intennet. What I do not understand is if fishing is so much fun and you love to fish why do you complain about bluefish?
finchaser i like what you said about fluke fishermen gone wild.
The comments show that the only goal is to put meat in the box. being out there, enjoying a sunny day, none of that is important. What jumps out at me here is that they are not happy because they could only catch bluefish. The one guy caught blues on every cast and is bummed because none of them were stripers. You say they are fluke fishermen gone wild. I think it's a good idea to have fluke fishing. it seems half the whiners dont know how to catch stripers. Bluefish are a pest, a nuisance to them. If there were no fluke half of the guys who talk like this would have to sell there boats.
dogfish that is so funny what you wrote rofllmao!
Good detective work vs. Some are not that smart at hiding the fact that they are hypocrites.
dogfish your post was absolutely hysterical, should be the post of the week.
Why thank you, fellas.:HappyWave:
Thought folks might find this interesting, from the noaa
The Ethical Angler
• Promotes ethical behavior in the use of aquatic
resources.
• Values and respects the aquatic environment
and all living things in it.
• Avoids spilling, and never dumps any pollutants
on land or in the water.
• Disposes of all trash, including worn-out lines,
sites litter-free.
• Takes all precautionary measures necessary to
prevent the spread of exotic plants and animals,
exotic plants and animals, including live baitfish, into non-native habitats.
• Learns and obeys angling and boating
regulations treating other anglers, boaters, and
property owners with courtesy and respect.
• Respects property rights, and never trespasses
on private lands or waters.
-Keeps no more fish than needed for consumption, and never wastefuly discards fish that are retained.
- Carefully handles or releases all fish that are unwanted or prohibited by regulation,
as well as other animals that are accidentally hooked.
• Uses tackle and techniques which minimize harm to fish when engaging
in catch and release angling.
http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/Partner...ngler_code.pdf
Hey hookset if I might ask what qualifies a catch for inclusion into this thread. There have been lots of reports since this thread was started and it seems you are somewhat selective on which ones you gripe about. No disrespect meant. I was merely curious as to how you apply standards to who is a meatman, and who is not?:)
bababooey if you are implying I am only picking on boat guys you are mistaken. The basic idea I had behind the thread is there are guys who are out there and fishing a lot. Ones who every time they are out they keep not only their fish but their bonus tag fish.there are some abuses here as the bonus tag fish are supposed to be reported every time and it used to be that you needed a new bonus tag for each fish. Maybe that has changed but even if it didn't there are people out there abusing that bonus tag system. Those are the ones I am posting about. The ones who only go fishing a few times a year should keep all the stripers they catch and eat every single one of them. I am dead serious on this. Fishing a few times a year neither you, I, nor anyone else has a right to tell you to keep or not keep your stripers.
The ones that get to me the most are the ones that fish regularly and keep their limits each time. Just because you can doesn't always justify as the reason as to why you should. dogfish made a good point eat fresh bass it is good for you. Loading up the freezer till there are fillets falling out will result in wasted fish down the line. I feel that the ones who fish the most and catch the most should be held to different standards than the ones who fish a few times a year. This is my opinion and you can disagree if you want.
the fabulous LaGrossa brothers:
may 18
Don't want you to think I am only talking about the boat meatmen bababooey.:moon:
LaGrossa, Chris Bass 46″ 40.1lbs Bunker Lagrossa, Phil Bass 50″ 46.4lbs Popper
Absent from this list have been the LaGrossa bros, well they are back. They showed up on Grumpy's catches yesterday. I have no problem labeling them as meatmen, and this is why.
During the height of the season they kill every legal bass they catch. It is my opinion they know or care nothing about conservation.
I will start to list their catches. You will see every day they catch a big fish it is weighed in for glory. What do they do with all those big fish if they catch fish over 25lbs? How could they possibly eat all that striper? Catching all them bass and not releasing them and doing it a lot where do those bass go? I don't have the answers or any proof but if you have intelligence higher than a watermelon this might look strange to you too. Where does all that bass go, into a worm hole? If you catch 5 30-40lb bass in a week, where do all the fillets go? That is all I am saying This is my opinion.
I read about them every year hookset. Trophy after trophy. Do not remember them ever weighing in a 29 or 30" bass it seems to be all about the chest pounding. What do they do with all that meat. Grouper on the menu? Thanks for having the balls to say something.
Hookset I believe one of them^^^ got fined last year for that. Many smaller restaurants are famous for fresh grouper specials during the bass runs,some have been fined. Some surf clubs promote killing by awarding a point per pound to determine angler of the year awards for single and team achievement. Most of these are eaten as they are weighed in singly . None of this compares to targeting and killing schools of breeders in Raritan bay. Laws need to be changed ASAP as the end is near for these magnificent fish and trust me I've seen it happen before and it's happening at a much more alarming rate. It's trying to be justified by bullsh_t excuses like posted above by the new generation of ill informed anglers. Many bass end up in dumpsters because they become soft do to the fact most of the assho_es don't have big enough storage or carry ice especially on smaller boats. I see it all the time very common on head boats where no storage is available unless you bring a minimum 128 quart or bigger cooler which most anglers don't own.
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: Sounds like you have been at it a long time. Thanks for sharing that. Folks can't see the forest from the trees. Where I fish in the Sound it has been hit or miss. A lot of us thought that the bunker had something to do with it. This year the bunker are all over and my catches are the same. If I was in a boat I know I could do better I would follow the bunker schools. The fishing that I do is relaxing and I would rather fish from the shore at night. It seems that there are too many who catching a big bass is the pinnacle of their lives. A great goal but you also have to have a balance. And what is wrong with CPR - catch photograph and release? Catching a big bass and taking a photo you will always have the memory. Putting the bass back in the water lets it be caught more than once. It it the ultimate act of unselfishness.
I dd not read all the posts in the thread but did notice that this young man JB seems to be generating a lot of controversy. I don't know if you can really fault him. His father should have taught him about the striped bass when he was growing up. If he is now unconcerned I would think a lot of the blame lies in the way he was raised. Just like racism if the kid is racist you don't have to look too far and you will find racist parents. There was an old poem many years ago called Children learn what they live. In this case it may be that he learned exactly the way that his father taught him, and not to value the striped bass as a gamefish. My .02