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    Thanks for sharing. Looking at some of those pics reminds me of that old planet of the apes movie when he gets to the salt water and realizes he is not on another planet - they just destroyed the old earth so badly that the damn dirty stinking apes took it over. Feel the same way about ocean county. In all the years I have lived here the beaches have just started to get worse in the last 5 years. I remember a bad storm around 1982 as well but other than that I think the ACOE and the GDamn dredging and the way they replenish is just not working. Anyone else feel the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishinmission78 View Post
    Thanks for sharing. Looking at some of those pics reminds me of that old planet of the apes movie when he gets to the salt water and realizes he is not on another planet - they just destroyed the old earth so badly that the damn dirty stinking apes took it over. Feel the same way about ocean county. In all the years I have lived here the beaches have just started to get worse in the last 5 years. I remember a bad storm around 1982 as well but other than that I think the ACOE and the GDamn dredging and the way they replenish is just not working. Anyone else feel the same?
    I feel the same. They are in the middle of completely destroying the Jersey shoreline. Its a shame. Its corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    Its corruption.
    Same has happened in Monmouth County. These folks are engineers. Somewhere someone had to do calculations and see that jetties and sea walls strategically placed are a better defense against the ravages of winter noreasters. I really believe they are influenced by bribes and corruption. As was said the proof is in the pudding. Sand naturally flows up or down depending on where you are located. Trying to work with that would have made more sense. It had to have cost less in the long run than just pumping sand to exposed beaches.

    Take the long branch pier for example. It was a structure extending out into the ocean. Lasted for decades of storms. Only to be brought down by a fire. There are many areas in the world where rock breakwaters or rock and t-jetty formations are the premier defense against high waves and bad storms. NJ ACOE doesn't make sense to me. Still scratching my head over the latest protocol.

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    My cousin was in the Army. He said there was a famous phrase- "The right way, the wrong way, and the Army way". You may have a point there but what can we do? The tourists love sandy beaches. They don't love rock jetties or anything that takes away from the uninterrupted view. Maybe that has something to do with it?

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    Tourists will always win. Fishermen will always be second in line in Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishinmission78 View Post
    Thanks for sharing. Looking at some of those pics reminds me of that old planet of the apes movie when he gets to the salt water and realizes he is not on another planet - they just destroyed the old earth so badly that the damn dirty stinking apes took it over. Feel the same way about ocean county. Anyone else feel the same?
    I do. The army engineers must be the ones that almost flunked out of engineering school.


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    ^^^^^^^^

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    Bye Bye beach again no more sand all gone



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    "The steel revetment wall is 40 feet high, so even with 12 feet exposed, more than half of it remains buried in the sand."

    That pic was chilling. Millions of dollars for that wall so far and with another superstorm those houses could be washed away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostatsea View Post
    "Manson Construction Company subcontracted work on the construction of outfalls to Agate Engineering. COA is in the process of getting the contract and project specifications for this reach of the Beach Erosion Control Project; however what we do know is that the subcontractor was supposed to remove the material offsite and properly dispose of it.
    We discovered that the contractor had merely moved what was left of the material that had not washed away a block to the south (Ocean Lane) and a bit further up the beach away from the water, as well as sprinkled some clean sand on top of some of the piles of muck. However, there was no containment surrounding the pile, so the material was exposed to wind, waves, and tides, especially from a full moon nor'easter predicted for the next day. COA once again contacted State and Federal agencies to ensure that a real solution to this dirty dilemma was put into place.
    By Monday afternoon, NJDEP Spokesperson Larry Hanja stated that NJDEP issued a notice of violation of the Waterfront Development Act and the Coastal Area Facility Review Act to Agate Engineering, however the specifics of the violation including penalty amounts are not yet known.
    On Tuesday (February 23) we returned to the site (in the early afternoon which was around low tide) and discovered the contractor had put a 1 to 2 foot small black woven material ?silt fence? around the pile, and were in the process of using a bulldozer to push up a sand berm around the pile to shield it from the incoming storm."


    So it appears the original company got a lot of moolah for the project. They then subcontracted with a sub to save even MORE money. This corruption stuff runs so deep. It was like they were doing this out in the open and didn't care. Why shouldn't Pallone or one of the politicians be held responsible for this? Just seems like more dirty business to me.
    COBRA has video proof that the material (marl) that they merely piled up was later bulldozed flat and eventually covered with pumped sand.

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    ^^That is good to hear. I hope they can put that together in a complaint before more people end up dead.

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    man, 34, dies after he's pulled from rough surf in long branch
    http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf...urf_off_l.html

    some more articles, really makes you think if it was worth it.
    http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf..._this_wee.html

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._nj_since.html

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    Class action lawsuit would be the only thing that they understand. My .02

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    Another story, human chain made to save woman from the rip current, and one of the rescuers died. Don't remember these types of stories before the beach replenishment.
    http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/...ero/706078001/

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    A battle by the owners near Risden Beach in point pleasant, interesting read.
    http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/20...fierce_du.html

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