Was goin outts my head so took up ice fishin this winterIt's alotta fun drilling holes waitting,drilling holes waitting.Anybody elese here???Post up!!
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Any Ice Fisherman??
Was goin outts my head so took up ice fishin this winter
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PASS IT ON!!TAKE A KID FISHING!!!!
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Hey, fc, they were supposed to get some winter ice fishin goin at that other site, but it never came together. Check the thread or PM me, maybe it will still happen.
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Tip Ups
My father was from the mid west, he always used to go ice fishing every winter, though I never joined him on these ventures. I mainly went with him on my visits out west, when the weather was not so cold. This of course created my love for fishing. He is no longer here but everytime I catch one I always say "This one's for you dad."
Anyhow, I came across this article. Thought it might be a good read for all you die hard ice fishermen.
Hook-set tip-up improves catch rates, inventor says; illegal in Minnesota
Brad Dokken Grand Forks Herald
Published Sunday, January 25, 2009
The inventor of a new ice fishing tip-up available this winter in North Dakota says the device improves catch rates by automatically setting the hook when a fish hits the bait and trips the bail.
Just don’t try using it in Minnesota.
A mainstay of the ice fishing industry for decades, a tip-up in the most basic terms is a device positioned atop a hole in the ice that holds a spool of line, usually below water level, with a flag that springs, or “tips” up to signal a strike.
Available for the first time this winter in North Dakota, the Hook-Set Tip-Up features a spring-loaded device that pulls upward on the line spool when a fish hits and automatically sets the hook. The device is illegal in Minnesota.
The angler then removes the tip-up from the hole, grabs the line and sets the hook, pulling in the fish in by hand.
According to Ben Scherg, inventor of the Hook-Set Tip-Up, there’s a key problem with that time-honored system: Too often, he says, a fish that trips the flag is gone by the time the angler gets to the line.
“That always bothered me,” said Scherg, 33, Waupaca, Wis. “Especially on those days when you only had one or two flags.
“We finally decided that if we were going to catch those fish, we either had to stand next to the tip-ups and set the hook right away or make a tip-up that would do it for you.”
It took him 10 years to come up with a design that worked and another decade to obtain a patent and jump through all of the other hoops to get a product to market, but Scherg finally got the Hook-Set Tip-Up on store shelves in 2006.
This is the first winter the tip-up has been available in North Dakota.
“It’s been a real learning experience,” said Scherg, who has a degree in business management from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
How it works
With a conventional tip-up, the spool attaches to a metal shaft that extends below water level. A flag on the frame of the tip-up slips under a T-shaped bar at the top of the shaft, which sits above the ice, to keep the spool below from turning.
When a fish hits, it peels line from the spool, turning the T-bar and tripping the flag so it springs skyward.
The Hook-Set Tip-Up looks a lot like a regular tip-up, but the T-bar is longer and features a spring-loaded device that triggers the spool underwater when a fish hits, pulling the spool upward and setting the hook.
The spring then decompresses, allowing the fish to peel line from the spool and trip the flag.
The tip-up has three different spring settings for large-, medium- and smaller-sized fish.
According to Scherg, the tip-up typically hooks 80 percent to 90 percent of the fish that hit, compared with about one-third to one-half of the fish that hit a conventional tip-up.
“My true belief is the best time to set the hook on a fish is when you know the bait’s in its mouth, the line is perfectly tight and it’s swimming away,” Scherg said. “That’s what my tip-up does, and no other on the market can do.”
Illegal in Minnesota
Before he invested in marketing the tip-up, Scherg contacted fisheries managers in each state to see if it would be legal.
Only Minnesota, which outlaws the use of spring-loaded, lever-actuated fishing mechanisms, said no.
Scherg said he had people tell him last year that the tip-up would be illegal in North Dakota, as well. But after some more research, he found out that wasn’t the case, and it hit the shelves in time for this winter’s ice fishing season.
Scheels and Gander Mountain stores in North Dakota sell the tip-up, Scherg said, along with several smaller bait-and-tackle shops.
The tip-up retails for $40 to $45.
Despite its success in landing fish, the Hook-Set Tip-Up has skeptics among the angling community, Scherg said.
“Some people have this staunch idea that it takes the fun out of it, it takes the sport out of it,” he said. “What I always tell them is, the fun of ice fishing with tip-ups is seeing the flag flying in the wind, running over there and being able to pull in the fish.
“And a high percentage of the time, you don’t get to do that; the fish is gone, or you miss it on the hook-set, and you’re disappointed. Whereas the vast majority of the time when my flags are up, there’s a fish there.”
Scherg also defends the ethics of his tip-up, saying fish don’t have to take the bait for a minute or more before the angler sets the hook.
“There’s a belief among tip-up fishermen that you need to let the fish take the bait for a long time,” Scherg said. “There’s a lot of swallowed hooks that end up in the gill and gullet.”
And if there’s a length restriction in place, “you’re throwing a mortally wounded fish back down the hole,” Scherg said.
“My tip-up, 95 percent of the time hooks right in the corner of the mouth, and you’re able to release a healthy fish.”
Manager’s view
Greg Power, fisheries chief for the North Dakota Game and Fish Department in Bismarck, said the state has encountered hook-setting mechanisms before. The only thing that would be illegal, Power said, is a mechanism that automatically reels in the fish, or a spring-loaded hook or other piece of terminal tackle.
Scherg’s tip-up, Power said, falls into neither category.
“There’s pros and cons,” Power said. “I’ve heard a lot of people say it sets the hook, imbeds the hook better. It’s another thing if it sets real well, and the fish is gut hooked.”
It might be a bigger issue, Power said, if North Dakota had a lot of lakes with length restrictions or high harvest in winter. But only about 20 percent of North Dakota’s harvest occurs in winter, Power said, and length restrictions are almost nonexistent in the state.
“It’s something we monitor, but it’s not overly a concern,” Power said.
It’s a different story in Minnesota.
According to Henry Drewes, regional fisheries supervisor for the Department of Natural Resources in Bemidji, Minnesota prohibits these kinds of devices for ethical reasons and because of resource concerns.
While he can’t market in Minnesota, Scherg said he’ll continue working to spread the word in other states.
“Everybody’s been trying forever to figure out why you miss so many fish,” Scherg said. “I’ve proven it’s because you’re not there to set the hook when they first bite. When you’re in a boat in the summer and get a bite, how often do you let the fish run for five minutes and hope it’s still there?
“That’s why I invented this.”
http://www.grandforksherald.com/arti...outdoor%20news
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THats a cool tip up!!! DS I'll get in touch!! Caught my limit of trout today got em home cooked em up MMMMMMMMMMM good!!!
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Got pics, fishincrazy?
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I do have pic's on photobucket but I can't get them to post here???Originally Posted by dogfish
Got pics, fishincrazy?
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...zy/trout-1.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...azy/trout1.jpg
Click here.I can't get just the picture but these links will help.
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Problem solved paperclip attachment has been repaired.
Nice pictures, I appreciate you posting them here.
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No problem I'm liking it here compared to the other sites I've been on.Lookin forward to talkin it up here.
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Nice trout, fishincrazy, did you get em on spinners or bait? Looks like a big lake in the pic, not frozen yet?
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Got em on corn/power bait and one on a 1/16 oz shad dart in chartruse.The lake is frozen between 5-7" thick.We where fishing holes right off the dock
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More trout throuhg the Ice:
Got some more today Ratboy and I hit it after lunch
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http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...y/trout2-1.jpg
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Nice pics, he looks happy.
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wtg, FC, I can't wait to start again, may have to hit the surf one day just to get out there.
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I should hook you up with my friend Rickstillcasting he's still fishin the beach why I don't know but he's been tryin.
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I have not been ice fishing in along time, this thread makes me want to get out the gear.
Getting started ice fishing
February 1, 2009
Some would argue you're not a real fisherman unless you're an ice fisherman.
Certainly, enduring temperatures below freezing, baiting hooks with numb fingers, cutting holes through thick ice, and pulling gear in a sleigh puts ice anglers in a special category.
"They're hatched not born,'' said Dave Grabenstatter of East Aurora, Erie County, when asked to describe an ice fisherman while fishing recently on Irondequoit Bay. "It's a rare breed. You'd have to be to come out here and sit in this stuff.''
Fishing hard water isn't hard but there is much to know.
Hooking up: There are two basic methods to catch fish through the ice — lightweight jigging rods and tip-ups. Tip-ups are devices that suspend the bait and signal a strike with the release of a flag or tipping motion. The simplest poles and tip-ups cost under $10 or can be homemade.
Cut the hole: It's a necessary task and if the fish aren't biting, you'll want to move and cut more holes. The crudest tool is a "spud'' bar (about $15) to chop through the ice. A wise investment is a hand-powered auger ($40 to $80). Today's models are extremely sharp, lightweight and make a nice clean hole. Make sure it's a minimum 6 inches.
Bait and tackle: Use minnows under tip-ups for larger species such as Northern pike and walleye. Suspend just off the bottom and near weeds. Use No. 10, red treble hooks on braided line with a leader. For panfish, jig with spoons, wax worms, spikes and mousies. When releasing a fish, get it down the hole quickly before its eyes freeze.
Electronics: Increase your odds with flashers and underwater video systems.
Dress: All the winter rules apply. Dress in layers with a rugged outer layer. Bring extra gloves, because the pair you're wearing will get wet.
Going in style: Sitting on a 5-gallon pail works fine for a short outing on a pleasant day. But for longer trips in bitter conditions, consider an ice shanty. Portable models for two ($300 to $500) come with padded seats. Add a propane heater and it's downright cozy.
Ice safety: A minimum of 3 to 4 inches of ice is needed to support a small group of people and up to a foot to support vehicles, experts say. Snow-covered ice can hide slush or re-frozen patches that can be 50 percent weaker so exercise extreme caution. Don't fish alone. Pack a long rope, a flotation device and ice picks.
Regulations: In New York, each angler is allowed two jigging poles and five tip-ups, each identified with your name and address. Everyone 16 and older needs a fishing license. Go to www.dec.ny.gov.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090201/SPORTS0103/902010348/1007/RSS02
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So is Ratboy your son? Nice trout pics.Got some more today Ratboy and I hit it after lunch
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http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...y/trout2-1.jpg
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Yes Ratboy is my son,He posted once on another site as ratboy so the name kinda stuck!!!! Got more yesterday!!!
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...azy/trout4.jpg
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FC, I got a friend who fishes NJ surf every month of the year. He's out at least once a week no matter what, hardcore fishin addict.he's still fishin the beach why I don't know but he's been tryin.
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That's cool, Dad and son fishin together. Doesn't get any better than that.Yes Ratboy is my son,He posted once on another site as ratboy so the name kinda stuck!!!! Got more yesterday!!!
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...azy/trout4.jpg
FCNice pics
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My buddy's in Brick and fishes from IBSP N to Belmar.Usually he's hittin round downer N through osborne.He didn't hook up in Jan.I'm feelin it,gotta head down soon.I wanna go to the Nuke river.Just don't subscribe to the back till 3/1.Heard there was herring in some inlets???Got a couple of reliable sources.Till then it's the ice for me.Waittin on the Big D to come up a little and we'll be hittin it again.FC, I got a friend who fishes NJ surf every month of the year. He's out at least once a week no matter what, hardcore fishin addict.
That's cool, Dad and son fishin together. Doesn't get any better than that.
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