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    Default Let's talk about the hype

    Listening to some of the Obama comments from the DNC outtakes:

    "Her seems to want real change, this is the first time in the history of our coutry we will have a chance to make changes for the better"

    "He is such a positive force for change, I haven't felt this way since Bobby Kennedy"

    So what happened to all the presidents since Kennedy and up to
    Bush? Were they all dogs, Democrats and Republicans alike?

    Will people be swayed by the cult of personality?

    Don't they understand there truly won't be any change in gov't if bipartisan sides keep voting their special interests?

    If Obama does get elected, 3 months after the honeymoon it will be business as usual, and the middle class will continue to get the royal screwing it always has.

    What are some other outrageous comments you've heard about the "new changes" coming our way?

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    This quote came from another site. The guy who said it, fmTuna, makes a lot of sense. It's all about the hype.


    "Lots of rhetoric, no accountability.

    A couple of days of spectacular staging, a long list of hypocrites, and thousands of Americans mistaking the Presidential Election process for the Superbowl.

    Hillary Clinton said a thousand times that Barak Obama is unqualified to run the country because of his inexperience.... now she is with him and says he is the man.

    Bill Clinton traveled the country... no, the WORLD... saying that Barak Obama never ran anything, never initiated any bi-partisan issue that had any impact on America... now he is with him and says he is the man.

    Joe Biden... one of Hillary Clinton's strongest and most vocal supporters in the primaries repeated over and over that Barak Obama was the wrong choice for America....that he was inexperienced, that he had not made an impact on any legislation of substance in his short tenure.... now he is with him, his number 1 sidekick.. and says he is the man.

    I am a "wallet' republican now... turned away from the party line by the Bush admisnistrations mishandling of the White House. I feel that although John McCain is a good man for the job and a great American, he is still too close to the policies set by the Bush Administration and needs to distance himself before he gets my vote.....

    ..... but I just can't help but putting a spotlight on this crazy TV sideshow that the latest political "Media Darling" has produced and directed for the last week... he and the D's should get an Emmy Award for it, but should not be awarded the White House."

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    Obama has absolutely no substance, no experience.

    Obama claims to be able to reach across the aisle and work with others, yet there is not one recorded instance of him having done so.

    McCain, on the other hand, whether you agree with him or not, has countless instances of having reached across the aisle and has brought forth much legislation.

    Obams - no record of armed service, no understanding of the issues faced by soldiers in a real conflict, which we are involved in now in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    McCain - I think his war experience speaks for itself.

    Obama - 143 days of experience in the Senate, and he feels qualified for the highest office in the country?

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    Angry white guy, this came from somewhere in Colorado, Gary Hubblee wrote it :




    There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.

    His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone — just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.

    The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations or a beautiful wedding.

    He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their lives.

    The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.

    The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

    His last name and religion don’t matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a white American.

    He’s a man’s man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed deer, call turkeys, play golf, spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.

    Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”

    He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.

    He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

    Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.

    He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.

    There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.

    He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.

    <i>Gary Hubbell is a writer, photographer, location scout for films and photo shoots, and a ranch real estate broker. He writes a monthly column for the Aspen Times Weekly. He can be reached at
    www.writerphotographer.biz.<;/i>

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    Tough crowd here, you could say the same thing about McCain's choice for VP, not a very long history of political experience.

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    Qoute about Obama:

    "Nothing he has said or promised indicates he would challenge Democratic Party policy orthodoxy or move it in a significant new direction.

    McCain's impact on the GOP however, could be dramatic."



    The only direction Obama is going in is to follow the old party line, same old BS.

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    Default Angry white man PII

    He wrote an epilog

    The blue light of the television bathed living rooms all across the heartland of America last night, and laughter echoed across the plains, river bottoms, mountainsides, and yes, subdivisions and neighborhoods, as Sarah Palin introduced herself to America.

    The Angry White Man ? and Angry White Woman ? are happy.

    The same people that I wrote about in February whose teeth grind together at the sound of Hillary Clintons voice are whistling while they work today, knowing they finally have their kind of politician on a presidential ticket.

    Sarah Palin, a gritty, small-town Alaska girl, rocked the Democrats back on their heels with her acceptance speech for the nomination as John McCain?s running mate. By doing so, she signed up for an extra-large dose of good old-fashioned liberal hate, slander and hypocrisy.

    Here's a woman we can hold up as a role model and, yes, a hero. She's strong, opinionated, charming, successful, well-spoken and well-liked. She's a tough former athlete (point guard on a state championship basketball team with a stress fracture in her ankle), an outdoorswoman, a dedicated mother, a person of faith and, just in case you haven't noticed, a beauty pageant winner.

    An active outdoorswoman, she's a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association and she hunts big game such as moose and caribou. She knows how to gut a moose, fillet salmon, run a sled-dog team and stick it out during a lifetime of cold Alaska winters.

    She's married to a man's man, a guy who worked as a commercial fisherman and as a production supervisor in the oil fields, and who just happens to be a world champion snowmobile ra cer. He's tall, good-looking, slim and trim, and a doting father to their five children. Speaking of children, she knew full well that their youngest son would be born with Down Syndrome, and considers him a gift from God. Her oldest son is an enlisted man on his way to Iraq.

    As a politician, she's been a city councilwoman, a mayor, the head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission and the governor of Alaska. She?s not afraid to challenge the status quo. She's fought corruption in her own political party and has fired entrenched bureaucrats - heck, even the whole staff, without blinking an eye. She's lowered taxes and has saved untold millions of taxpayer dollars. She enjoys an 80 percent approval rating. She's in favor of energy production, limited government, line item vetoes and hates abortion.

    So what's not to like?

    Those Americans who actually make something or do something for a living - with job descriptions like farmer, logger, nurse, mechanic, doctor and production supervisor are in love with Sarah Palin. Those with job descriptions (if they have a job) such as media consultant, systems analyst, community outreach development supervisor, blogger or diversity training enforcement supervisor likely will hate her.

    The blogosphere and the Internet is whirling in confusion today. Obama fans, media pundits and the snarky East Coast city dwellers and San Francisco gay rights and abortion advocates have gone into a froth in their best attempt to savage Sarah Palin and her family.

    So here goes - it became a very long list of criticisms in a very short time. She's religious, too religious. She actually prayed at public events.

    She injected national issues into local politics. Todd got a DUI in 1986. Her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, and they dragged the poor father of the baby onto a national stage. (Don't forget that no one would know about the pregnancy if the girl had had an abortion.) She's pro-life. She wants to drill. Todd's a womanizer. She had an affair. She can't take care of her children if she's vice president. She's too ambitious. She's too inexperienced.

    For crying out loud, she's just a heartbeat away from being leader of the free world and commander-in-chief of the armed forces! The pressure is too much for her. Just watch - she's going to withdraw. And then there are heaps of moose jokes and small town jokes.


    Keep it up, says the Angry White Man, and better yet, his Angry White Woman, as well as all the angry blacks, Latinos, Indians and just plain angry Americans. Please, I beg of you, just keep it up.

    Sarah Palin's family sounds like a normal American family, one that has had its challenges, successes, failures and joys.

    Is half of this crap true? Maybe, maybe not. Who cares?

    It just serves to make Sarah Palin more human to the average working American. All those city dwellers who are so disassociated from the world that they think meat begins as a shrink-wrapped package in the grocery store may never connect with Sarah Palin, who knows how to cut the throat of a downed moose to bleed out the carcass.

    Barack Obama, the guy who still can't define what he did as a community organizer, and who, as a two-year junior Senator, looks woefully inexperienced for the job of commander in chief is perfectly packaged for emotional urban sensibilities.

    Any guy who has ever hunted whitetail deer has dreamed of hunting moose in Alaska. Anybody who has ever fished for bass or trout would jump at the chance to course the waters of Bristol Bay with Todd Palin in search of salmon. Any guy whose adrenaline goes up with the sound of racing engines will respect a guy who is a four-time world champion racer.

    The Palins are average Americans - working hard, making the world a better place, raising a good family, and going to church just like the Angry White Man and his wife. The Palins are all that, with a little bit of hero status thrown in. The more they try to knock down Sarah and Todd Palin, the more the Palins' stock goes up.

    The Palins are just what the Angry White Man was looking for, and he and his wife are going to vote that way in November.

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    Default Obama - mid term review - Are you better off today?

    Would you say you are better or worse off with Obama as President? The stats below don't show his presidency in too good of a light.


    Two years ago today, Barack Obama was inaugurated as president of the United States . Are you better off today than you were two years ago? Numbers don't lie, and here are the data on the impact he has had on the lives of Americans:





    January 2009

    TODAY

    % chg
    Source
    Avg. retail price/gallon gas in U.S.

    $1.83

    $3.104

    69.6%
    1

    Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)

    $43.48

    $99.02

    127.7%
    2

    Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)

    $38.74

    $91.38

    135.9%
    2

    Gold: London (per troy oz.)

    $853.25

    $1,369.50

    60.5%
    2

    Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL

    $3.56

    $6.33

    78.1%
    2

    Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL

    $9.66

    $13.75

    42.3%
    2

    Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. fob

    $13.37

    $35.39

    164.7%
    2

    Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall

    7.6%

    9.4%

    23.7%
    3

    Unemployment rate, blacks

    12.6%

    15.8%

    25.4%
    3

    Number of unemployed

    11,616,000

    14,485,000

    24.7%
    3

    Number of fed. employees, ex. military (curr = 12/10 prelim)

    2,779,000

    2,840,000

    2.2%
    3

    Real median household income (2008 v 2009)

    $50,112

    $49,777

    -0.7%
    4

    Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10)

    31,983,716

    43,200,878

    35.1%
    5

    Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10)

    7,526,598

    9,193,838

    22.2%
    6

    Number of long-term unemployed

    2,600,000

    6,400,000

    146.2%
    3

    Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009)

    13.2%

    14.3%

    8.3%
    4

    People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009)

    39,800,000

    43,600,000

    9.5%
    4

    U.S. rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings

    5

    9

    n/a
    10

    Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10)

    29.9

    23.5

    -21.4%
    11

    Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date)

    140

    164

    17.1%
    12

    U.S. dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate

    89.76

    82.03

    -8.6%
    2

    U.S. money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)

    1,575.1

    1,865.7

    18.4%
    13

    U.S. money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)

    8,310.9

    8,852.3

    6.5%
    13

    National debt, in trillions

    $10.627

    $14.052

    32.2%
    14



    Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history. Over 27 times as fast! Metaphorically, speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane 27 times faster . . . it would be doing 1,755 MPH! This is a disaster!



    Sources:

    (1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury

    KEEP THE CHANGE!

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