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    Default Ocean City to reinstate beach curfew

    This sux, I wonder where in the public trust this falls under?

    http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...cc4c03286.html





    Ocean City to reinstate beach curfew


    By MICHAEL MILLER Staff Writer, 609-463-6712 | Posted: Wednesday, July 8, 2009

    ‘If I didn’t have young kids, I’d be at the beach at night,’ says Eric Beil, of Quakertown, Pa.

    Photo by: Matthew Strabuk






    OCEAN CITY - The city's beaches will be off limits again to stargazers, starlight surf fishermen and romantic couples strolling under the moon.
    City Council will vote tonight to reinstate a beach curfew between 10 p.m. and 5 a.m. after a state court said towns could limit beach access.
    In June 2008, Ocean City joined several other towns in allowing 24-hour beach access as a condition imposed by the state Department of Environmental Protection to participate in its beach-replenishment projects. But now that the state Supreme Court has struck down this condition, Ocean City Council wants its regulations back.
    "I wasn't real comfortable when we changed it before, but I understood that (otherwise) we wouldn't get money from the state," Councilman Scott Ping said. "I don't care for the idea of keeping the beaches open 24/7. It makes it a lot more difficult to police as far as the kids down there partying and that kind of stuff."
    Council will conduct a public hearing on the curfew at a meeting 7 p.m. tonight at City Hall. Many other Cape May County shore communities have similar or identical restrictions to keep people off the beach at night.
    Ping said he talked to Police Chief Chad Callahan, who agreed that the curfew would make it easier to enforce quality-of-life issues such as noise. Callahan could not be reached for comment Wednesday. Capt. Jay Prettyman said the curfew would give police more latitude to keep the peace in beachfront neighborhoods.
    The measure passed without dissent on first reading. Council President Susan Sheppard said she did not expect any opposition.
    "Council decided it was best to make sure the beaches were safe," she said, adding that she did not take advantage of the open beaches when she had the chance.
    "I'm in bed by 9," she said.
    The city supports the ordinance, Business Administrator James Rutala said.
    "It will provide another level of security," he said.
    Despite the curfew, city police will continue to make regular patrols on the beach, he said.
    Some beachgoers Wednesday said they thought the restrictions were unnecessary. Eric Beil, of Quakertown, Pa., and his 5-year-old son, Ethan, munched French fries on the Boardwalk. He said people should take personal responsibility for their behavior.
    "It's a double-edged sword. I can see the reasoning for keeping it safe," he said. "But if I didn't have young kids, I'd be at the beach at night."
    Joan Eshleman, of Myrtle Beach, S.C., said people should be free to walk the beach whenever they please.
    She and her three sisters shared a Boardwalk bench in their beach attire while they swapped stories and laughed. They have been coming to Cape May County since they were little children.
    "Why should I give up my walk? That's disgraceful. Don't they remember when they were a teenager?" she asked. "Choice, choice, choice, give us a choice. We're fighting two wars, aren't we? Isn't that about freedom?"
    Her sister Rosemary Votta, of Glenwood, Pa., agreed. She fondly recalled stealing away to the beach with a boyfriend.
    "A number of them over the years," she said, prompting giggles from her sisters. "We went under the Boardwalk. God gave us the beach. Let us use it."

    If approved today, the curfew goes into effect July 29, the Clerk's Office said. But for those who want to enjoy the moonlight's reflection on the receding surf, there is always Corsons Inlet State Park on the island's south end.
    State parks still offer 24-hour pedestrian access to the beaches, a DEP spokeswoman said.

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    Default No jetty night fishing access in Stone Harbor, NJ

    Here's a report from another site. A guy was kicked off a Stone Harbor jetty for night fishing. Although it's common for this on some jetties down there, the new DEP ruling
    http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...ead.php?t=6772
    just makes it a lot easier for towns to make these rules. Get used to it, people.




    Quote Originally Posted by 2307034
    Well after fishing on jettys for 25 plus years the unthinkable happened, two cops waved me off the jetty and asked me not to fish from it. First a saltwater license now this. What next ? Our fishing future looks bleak !

    The cops were very polite, it was about 8:00 to 8:30 pm. I do understand their concern, but I am a grown man and I know the risk. Most importantly though, the fluke were biting on the end of that jetty. Oh well.

    The reason given here was the officers were concerned for the guy's safety. This could easily be applied to the jetties of Monmouth county now that the DEP no longer has our back.

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    It's sad to think that they can make up any rules they want now.

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    Code of the Township of Ocean, New Jersey (Ocean County)

    Title 12
    STREET, SIDEWALKS AND PUBLIC PLACES

    Article I
    Launching of Boats


    12.16.010 Findings.

    A. The township owns or controls the street and lands over mean high water mark, as follows:
    1. Northerly end of Compass Road and Capstan Road, they adjoin the shore line of oyster Creek;
    2. Southerly end of Shore Drive where it adjoins the shore line of a lagoon;
    3. Along the shore line of Barnegat Bay at the easterly end of: Beacon Drive, Nautilus
    Road, Demmy Avenue, Dollmore Avenue, Ocean Avenue, Michigan Avenue, Adriaric
    Avenue, Baltic Avenue, Pacific Avenue, Bonita Road and Point Road.

    B.The launching of boats and fishing on those lands has caused congestion of traffic, a menace to the safety and welfare of the users of roads in this area, unsanitary conditions and the creation of noise and confusion to the residents of this area. (Prior code 55-8.1)


    12.16.020 Prohibitions.

    A. No person shall launch any boat, raft or other marine device from any township street or lands at or along the shoreline of:
    1. Oyster Creek at the northerly ends of Compass Road and Capstan Road;
    2. The lagoon where it adjoins the southerly terminus of Shore Drive;
    3. Barnegat Bay at the easterly ends of Beacon Drive, Nautilus Road, Demmy Avenue, Dollmore Avenue, Ocean Avenue, Michigan Avenue, Adriatic Avenue, Baltic Avenue, Pacific Avenue, Bonita Road, Point Road and Atlantic Avenue.

    B. Excepting the township-owned dock,, no person, firm or corporation shall fish, crab, seine or otherwise engage in the activity of catching fish or shellfish from any township street or lands at or along the shore line of:
    1. Oyster Creek at the northerly ends of Compass Road and Capstan Road;
    2. The lagoon where it adjoins the southerly terminus of Shore Drive;
    3. Barnegat Bay at the easterly ends of, Beacon Drive, Nautilus Road, Demmy Avenue, Dollmore Avenue, Ocean Avenue, Michigan Avenue, Adriatic Avenue, Baltic Avenue, Pacific Avenue, Bonita Road, Point Road and Atlantic Avenue;
    4. North Harbor at the northerly terminus of Vessel Road. (Prior code 45-8.2)

    Chapter 12.16

    DOCKS AND BOATS
    Article III
    Public Dock at the Easterly Terminus of Bay Road

    12.16.080 Hours for fishing and crabbing.

    The public dock will be open to fishing and crabbing during the hours of six a.m. to six p.m., prevailing time. Any person who refuses to cease fishing or crabbing on the dock during the hours it is closed for such purposes, and after being requested to do so by a police officer or other authorized official, shall be guilty of a violation of this chapter. (Prior code § 5-9B.5)

    12.16.090 Refusal to leave-Violation.
    Any person who refuses to leave the dock or pavilion when it is closed, after being requested to do so by a police officer or other authorized official, shall be guilty of a violation of this chapter. (Prior code $5-9B.6)

    12.16.100 Penalty.
    Any person convicted of a violation of any provision of this chapter shall be subject to the penalty as provided in Section 12.20.080. (Prior code $ 5-9B.7)


    http://www.e-codes.generalcode.com/codes/2941_A/Title%2012%20-%20Streets,%20Sidewalks%20and%20Public%20Places.pd f#xml=http://www.e-codes.generalcode.com/searchresults.asp?cmd=pdfhits&DocId=37&Index=C%3a% 5cProgram%20Files%5cdtSearch%5cUserData%5c2941%5fA &HitCount=5&hits=259e+266b+2a10+2a1a+2a30+&hc=10&r eq=fishing

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    There seems to be no hope for the fisherman.

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    Its about the $$, they cater to whoever brings more revenue to the town.

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