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    In the earliest days of my recollection, my youth, and the days of paying my dues, I met some of the men that made the greatest contributions to surf casting as it exists today. There was little if any regulation on surfmen then, and you could ride virtually every stretch of sand year round. These guys had buggies of all types, shape, and size. My old man had an old panel truck, locker rear end, with balloon tires that he aired down to flats to get on the beach. For longer duration stays he had an old bread delivery truck, with rough bunks built in, and every piece of Coleman equipment you could get at the time. The vehicles had rod racks made from pine boards screwed through the metal, and spring clips to hold the rods. On the way to the beach, we would stop at the local ice rink and fill the coolers from the piles of shavings at the rear of the building.
    There was a shop that we went to on the way to the shore, that carried only what you needed. A custom rod shop, Murat's Bait and Tackle. They had a big metal Striper, lit up with neon, that you couldn't miss as you drove down the old cart path known as rte 146. That road is now 4 lanes wide and constantly grid locked in front of where the old shop once stood.
    Charlie Murat was a cantankerous old cuss, weather worn and wrinkled from the blowing winds and pounding surf he felt at home in. You could buy any reel you wanted from him, as long as it was a Penn. They distributed Harnell for the entire east coast, but sold the original Lammi's as well. They carried Gibbs and Atom lures, and eels. Many a time I was in the shop, Stann Gibbs and Bob Pond (Atom) would be standing side by side, coffee in hand talking about Bass with Charlie.
    Dave Hammock, Charlies son-in-law, would be in the back turning rods, and overseeing the other guys doing the same. Dave was cut from a differant piece of cloth. Charlie didn't especially take to kids and thought they were nothing more than a nuisance. Dave would take me under his wing.
    By bicycle I would ride to the shop, around 4 miles from my house, and pull up to the back door. I would peek in to see if Dave was there, and make sure Charlie was out of sight. If I could get through the door, and make it to the stool near Daves bench I was golden. Charlie would let me sit there as long I made it in without him seeing me.
    All the contract builders in the shop, paid by the rod, did all the production work. Charlie, Dave and Butch, did all the custom rods. They were the ones that tailored to the the guy that was buying it. They also had more thread work, and made the stuff I wanted to do. I would sit and watch, as Dave went through the process of cutting the rod to length, in order to get the action the buyer wanted, splining the blank, setting the seat location, and applying the grips. There wass a lot of cork back then, and cork tape was just coming in. Dave would then explain how to stress the rod to locate the stripper guide, and go over laying out the rest of the guides. The entire proces was to tune the rod to what the fisherman wanted to do with it. I still use those methods I learned from Dave, and completely disregard guide spacing charts that come with every blank.

    I will continue to build this thread, along with some pictures, as time allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripercoast1 View Post
    Charlie Murat was a cantankerous old cuss, weather worn and wrinkled from the blowing winds and pounding surf he felt at home in. You could buy any reel you wanted from him, as long as it was a Penn. .

    You could buy any reel you wanted from him, as long as it was a Penn. Yes those were the days when the name Penn meant someting!

    Great writing SC1, look forward to reading more.

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    Sounds like the beginning of an old salt sea tale for around the fire in the winter, nice.

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    Stripercoast1, Great story, thanks, I look forward to many more.

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    The biggest detail that needs to be understood, is that the technology of that period was no where near what it is today. To put it into perspective, you still had to rent your rotary phone from AT&T back then.
    The blanks were thickly walled and heavy. The lighter of the 2 brands sold through Murats was the old Brown and original Lami's. Theses blanks offered more actions, and lengths, but were less popular in the lighter end of the models, because most guy's equated weight with strength and power. An attitude that is still pervasive with my personal choices. I don't own a salt water graphite rod. Not in surf anyway. I fish with guy's half my age that can't concieve of casting one of my old brownies with 3 ounce plugs all night.
    The guy's that preferred the Harnells, for the most part, were the sand spikers. The longer blanks in the 12 foot range, could handle the really heavy stuff with relative ease. 8 ounces of lead and a whole herring or pogie, would reach the second bar with consistancy with a 705, or 6 hanging from the seat. From my memory, and experiance, you would have 3 or 4 Harnells soaking a bait in the spikes, and using a 10 or 11 foot Lami to throw metal lips while waiting for a pick up on one of the bait rods.
    The lami's were also the preffered choice of the conventional casting guy's, with Penn squidders in the seat. The actions of these blanks allowed a more powerfull load up in order to reach a far off blitz with a 4 or 5 ounce pencil or polaris popper. The line of choice early on was either tarred cotton (the real old timers), or nylon squidding line. Mono was occaisionally used, but unless you were really familiar with it, birds nests would cause you to switch out the reel, in order to clean it out later. Most of the guy's I knew back then had smooth thumbs having burned their prints right off from thumbing the cast. I still use a 12 foot brownie with a Penn Squdder loaded with 65 lb Power Pro.
    There were 2 choices of guides back then. Pacific Bay made, and still makes, a stainless ringed V braced surf guide, with chrome plating for wear resistance. Mildrum made both surf and casting guides, with Stainless frames and carbide rings. The carbide was 100 times more wear resistant, but way more expensive. Most guy's opted for the Pac Bays with a carbide tip from mildrum, as the tip took more of the line wear punishment than the rest of the guides. The prefered conventional built was all mildrum carbides. It was felt that the Mildrum was a strong frame, and the squidding line would wear through the entire run of guides more than the spinning set ups with mono.

    More to come.
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    What a great story. You are a one of the lucky ones to learn while you were young. It is something that like you said becomes an art which you love. Can't wait for more details from a expert with timeless knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripercoast1 View Post
    The biggest detail that needs to be understood, is that the technology of that period was no where near what it is today. To put it into perspective, you still had to rent your rotary phone from AT&T back then.

    A gentleman who remembers the rotary phones is someone I am comfortable with. Thank you for the great memories back in time, Striper.

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