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    Default Techniques - unconventional

    What are some of the unconventional techniques you have used or seen used?

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    Porgy, first one that comes to mind is a guy using a double shad rig when the surf had 4' waves crashing on the beach. That didn't work because the fish were out further and you can't get casting distance with a rig like that. Metal was the ticket that day, and the furthest casts got the fish. As told by OGB.


    Bunker head on a Hopkins:
    The 2nd recent one is when I ran into Roger, his Dad, and their 2 friends one afternoon in Ocean county this fall. They had bunker heads and huge bunker chunks on their Hopkins metals as they threw them out to wait for strikes.

    I thought they were nuts, and they were, but in a good way.

    Big blues, and some bass, had big schools of bunker pinned tight to the beach. The only thing they wanted was meat, and these guys figured it out. They were catching while everyone else was "watching".

    Here's the story of their day:
    http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...ead.php?t=5425

    Moral of the story?
    Don't judge what someone else is using or doing unless you're sure it won't work.

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    If you want to catch small bass schooled up in a harbor or near a dock, try throwing a sabiki rig with a small rubber curly tube jig when the herring are around. You will get the herring and also maybe a surprise bass.

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    This Kid i fish with has great luck with a Polaris popper at night. He is always catching fish on his polaris popper at night? Never would have figured? But he does very well with it. I think he is on here at times.

    The other unconventional item I have used int he past is tin at night. Not my original idea but Toss a tin at night on sand beaches and jig it like a bucktail popping sand off the bottom and wait for the hit on the drop or on the initial pick up.

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    Pensil poppers can be very effective at night with an erratic retrieve. What works for me is to stop or slow them down after some fast action, you will sometimes get that strike right before you start up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSkies View Post
    The only thing they wanted was meat, and these guys figured it out.
    Try putting a small bunker fillet on a bucktail at certain places in the back. See how it improves your catch vs a guy throwing rubber, or a buck without the rind.

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    ^^ Very good. That is an old secret technique. When I first started fishing the old timers did that from the bridges.

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    Anyone ever try a live eel with a small sluggo on top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhopper View Post
    Anyone ever try a live eel with a small sluggo on top?
    Rockhopper, I'm sorry that no one answered this, and I just saw it. Fishing live eels requires concentration so they don't ball up on you. Respectfully, the technique you're describing is a recipe for disaster. Too much can go wrong, and it just doesn't make sense to me. Hope that helped.

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    Default The Dangle Method

    Sent in by Rip-Plugger, thanks!


    1.wanna fish a bucktail waay out and not worry about hitting bottom?,,
    2. how about being able to sling a sluggo out to nearly or at 100 yards or
    more?,,
    3. what about fishing a large streamer fly waay out and having no problem
    getting out there 300 feet?

    well heres how you can do it!

    what I do is use my tried/true dangle method,thats right I said dangle
    damn it!

    a. Take a tennis ball and drill a 1/16th hole through both sides of it.

    b. Take your leader[I like 30 inches-5 feet long]and tie a barrel swivel on
    one end.

    c. Take a bait needle and tie it to the other end.

    d. Push the bait needle through the tennis ball pull the leader through
    till the barrel hits the tennis ball.

    e. At the other side of the tennis ball cut the leader leaving more than
    enough to tie on another barrel swivel.

    f. Tie another barrel swivel onto the bottom of the tennis ball.

    g. Now,all you have to do is tie on a bucktail,sluggo or small jig using
    your choice of leader length to fish waay out with ease. as I do,I like
    to put on a 3/4-1 oz smiling bill and sling it out,let it drift waay out
    there and then either employ my "do nothing method" or work it back
    slowly.

    h. This really works well with a 8 inch saltwater assassin sea-shad,I like
    to have 4 feet of leader and do nothing waay out or slowly bring it
    in,they really whack the **** outta it!


    thats the H-H Dangle method *****!
    act like ya heard me,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSkies View Post
    Sent in by Rip-Plugger, thanks!



    thats the H-H Dangle method *****!
    act like ya heard me,,,,,
    Solid info here, thanks for posting.
    Along those lines, when the area is rocky you can also drift a pogy from shore with a balloon if the wind is at your back .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackbass View Post
    This Kid i fish with has great luck with a Polaris popper at night. He is always catching fish on his polaris popper at night? Never would have figured? But he does very well with it. I think he is on here at times.
    heheheeeee

    the date isnt correct by the way..... montauk 09

    I love that freakin plug. never caught a monster on it, but its usually always guna get thrown if im fishing
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails montauk keepa.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnysaxatilis View Post
    heheheeeee

    the date isnt correct by the way..... montauk 09

    I love that freakin plug. never caught a monster on it, but its usually always guna get thrown if im fishing
    Good choice, I have done well with them also particularly on the new moon, and I vary the retrieve, sometimes just letting it sit still for a brief sec.

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    ya that one is slow sinking, you can pop it, v wake it(which i was doing when i caught that) and let it sink and just slow retrieve wiggle back to the surface. great bluefish plug too. durable

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSkies View Post
    Sent in by Rip-Plugger, thanks!


    1.wanna fish a bucktail waay out and not worry about hitting bottom?,,
    2. how about being able to sling a sluggo out to nearly or at 100 yards or
    more?,,
    3. what about fishing a large streamer fly waay out and having no problem
    getting out there 300 feet?

    well heres how you can do it!

    what I do is use my tried/true dangle method,thats right I said dangle
    damn it!

    a. Take a tennis ball and drill a 1/16th hole through both sides of it.

    b. Take your leader[I like 30 inches-5 feet long]and tie a barrel swivel on
    one end.

    c. Take a bait needle and tie it to the other end.

    d. Push the bait needle through the tennis ball pull the leader through
    till the barrel hits the tennis ball.

    e. At the other side of the tennis ball cut the leader leaving more than
    enough to tie on another barrel swivel.

    f. Tie another barrel swivel onto the bottom of the tennis ball.

    g. Now,all you have to do is tie on a bucktail,sluggo or small jig using
    your choice of leader length to fish waay out with ease. as I do,I like
    to put on a 3/4-1 oz smiling bill and sling it out,let it drift waay out
    there and then either employ my "do nothing method" or work it back
    slowly.

    h. This really works well with a 8 inch saltwater assassin sea-shad,I like
    to have 4 feet of leader and do nothing waay out or slowly bring it
    in,they really whack the **** outta it!


    thats the H-H Dangle method *****!
    act like ya heard me,,,,,

    Another variation of this is to use balloons. These crazy Australians got a sailfish balloon fishing off a cliff.

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    Default dangling

    I used it today to fish an area that the shoreline is steep and private property.
    I stood on the bridge and slung it out,drifted it out about 180 yards[diaw firewolf rod,glass,9.5 feet/ming-Yang CL-70 loaded with 290 yards of 30 mono] and let it slide to the left and hang it slacker water during the last 2 hrs of flooding tide.8 feet of 50 mono and a 6 inch sea shad.had 6 hits landed 4 fish,school size but it allowed me to fish an area that you only can fish by boat AND my car is 6 feet away from my back.
    reel up,rod away and hop in and go.


    R-P
    Takes a Big Man to sling Big Wood,,,,boys sling plastic,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rip-Plugger View Post
    had 6 hits landed 4 fish,school size but it allowed me to fish an area that you only can fish by boat AND my car is 6 feet away from my back.
    reel up,rod away and hop in and go.

    R-P
    Sounds like the perfect fishing spot.

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    Default Tips for tins

    I think you should patent that dangle fishing method RP. Then you could package it with some new plug or lure designed around it and sell it on an infomercial, you could get rich.
    Or, it could end up as fill on the late night TV commercials. Hey you never know.


    Dressing tins, when throwing tins in the fall surf, sometimes it's not needed to cast very far. When the conditions are that way, if I have a single hook on my tin I'll put a bucktail on it, or a white grub. Sometimes that's the ticket for getting the fish to hit it. You do lose some distance, so only do it if the fish are in close.

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    Thanks dogfish I'lll have to try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    When the conditions are that way, if I have a single hook on my tin I'll put a bucktail on it, or a white grub. Sometimes that's the ticket for getting the fish to hit it. You do lose some distance, so only do it if the fish are in close.
    Or you could put a sandeel teaser or a sluggo on an ava, that can work well too. Like that dangle method too, that was funny.

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