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    Default Changes within the last 5 years in fishing results

    (I'll fill in later)

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    Default Changes in the last 2 years in fishing legislation

    I wondered if all the guys out there were aware of the comprehensive nature of these changes. A brief overview:

    Winter flounder:

    Summer flounder/fluke:

    Weakfish:


    Grouper:

    Red snapper:

    Sea bass:

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    Default I only fish for bass....

    So why should I give an eff about all the rest of those?

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    Default Questions and responses about getting involved

    Finchaser posted up some good reasons to get involved. I wanted to highlight them here:


    [For all recreational fisherman which encompasses people who fish on party boats,charter boats and the beach. Plus most tackle shop owners fish.

    I do all three, as many saltwater fisherman do. Surf is dead so we fish boats for cod,pollack,hake and ling.
    Always fish boats for fluke,blackfish( fish that are good eating)
    We no longer can fish for seabass, which is part of the fight the RFA and SSFFF are undertaking.

    1.The commercial guys pay lobbyists to get there way from government ( large fish quota's) they want ours.

    2.The RFA (Recreational Fishing Alliance) lobbies for us from the donations and memberships, thats where all the money goes.

    Remember the money which goes to the economy is what government looks at. The money spent by beach fisherman is like a pimple on an elephants *** compared to boat sector. With out the boat sector we would have no quota's it would all be commercial,which government (DR. Lubchenco) wants.
    The more fisheries they shut down the worse it's gonna be.

    Just this year 2009 since Ms Lubchenco took over NOAA thanks to Obama (she came from PEW)
    For 2009
    1. Seabass shut down here
    2. Red Snapper,Amberjack in florida shut down
    3. Weakfish here

    For 2010
    a. seabass 2 months instead of 12 months
    b. weakfish 1 fish instead of 6
    c. new fluke regulations
    d. possible new striper regulations


    These are all fights the RFA is involved in to over turn,hence the seabass lawsuit against government,fighting to keep fluke and Striped bass regulations and quota the same. They fight to keep recreational fish quotas from going to the commercials and other fisheries from being shut down. There are 2 groups Recreational and Commercial period thats how fish are split up.

    If we fish for them from land or sea really has no bearing we are recreational fisherman it's our quota we want to save. Remember with out bass and blues beach guy's disappear and no one would care especially beach front home owners who also support government against us with political contributions. ]

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    Default Asking questions and getting involved

    Guys, kudos to all who are concerned enough to ask questions. There are no stupid questions. Learning is a process, and I commend anyone who wants to learn more.

    The motive behind this thread is to educate people more so they will have the incentive to make conscious choices to keep learning, and possibly getting involved.

    I may seem like I'm preaching here guys and girls, but this is our fishing future.

    The Bill of Rights gives citizens the right to bear arms.
    However it doesn't give us an automatic right to hunt or fish. As I see these rights trampled on, I can't help but become more and more involved.

    I'm inviting some of you here to do that as well. I realize the decision is entirely up to you. I just want to be able to present some things which I hope will help you in your research.

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    Default Penalties for non-involvement? PETA's sea kitten campaign

    A lot of people laughed this off. If you think about it rationally, it's a brilliant campaign designed ultimately to prevent or restrict us from fishing.

    These devious eco-freaks have designed a very intelligent campaign to get into the minds of schoolchildren and get them to think about fish as delicate creatures that they can adopt as pets or feel sorry for.

    Make no mistake about it, the obvious intent is to turn the young generations against fishing. A very well placed strategic move in their war against anyone who fishes.

    I could merely just say to PETA and the PEW trust people, but have realized that just because I give them an they won't go away.

    In fact, they become stronger every year as they place their disciples in key gov't positions.

    They get stronger, while we fishermen argue among ourselves.



    A key disciple of theirs is Dr Jane Lubchenko, current head of the NOAA. This is the most powerful gov't organization today that has control over fishing rights.

    OUR fishing rights.

    And this one woman is in a position of power to shut off our rights as easily as someone turns off a light switch.

    She has done this several times.

    When will she come gunning to shut the striped bass fishing down?

    Not possible, you say?
    Don't bet your house on it.

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    Let's hear what you guys have to say, positive or negative. That's the only way for people to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSkies View Post
    A lot of people laughed this off. If you think about it rationally, it's a brilliant campaign designed ultimately to prevent or restrict us from fishing.

    These devious eco-freaks have designed a very intelligent campaign to get into the minds of schoolchildren and get them to think about fish as delicate creatures that they can adopt as pets or feel sorry for.

    Make no mistake about it, the obvious intent is to turn the young generations against fishing. A very well placed strategic move in their war against anyone who fishes.

    I could merely just say to PETA and the PEW trust people, but have realized that just because I give them an they won't go away.

    In fact, they become stronger every year as they place their disciples in key gov't positions.

    They get stronger, while we fishermen argue among ourselves.


    The sea kittens campaign was stupid. I agree it was brilliant as well. We should find out where the head leaders live and send them rotting bunker heads in the mail. Maybe they can make bunker kittens out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSkies View Post
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    I could merely just say to PETA
    Does PETA protect all fish?
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