Plastic swimmers: Differences, what works when

[cowherder]

What is that one, the 2nd from the bottom? Thanks monty.

[finchaser]

Mambo minnow

[Monty]

What is that one, the 2nd from the bottom? Thanks monty.

Mambo minnow

My most productive plastic last year

[finchaser]

My most productive plastic last year

Better buy them up if you like them Al Gags doubled the wholesale price they are going to retail for about $20 bucks a piece

[storminsteve]

20 dollars that is insane they will never sell at that price. I know I won't buy any.

[baitstealer]

Wondering how you guys swim those mambo minnows? What retrieve works best

[finchaser]

super slow^^^ although they are not one of my favorite lures I prefer the Yozuri Crystal minnows which out fish and out cast the mamba

[Monty]

Wondering how you guys swim those mambo minnows? What retrieve works best

Last year was my first using them.
I fish them slow (like fin says), with an occasional twitch at times.
I read somewhere that described casting a mambo minnow is like casting a potato chip.

[Monty]

Anyone fish plastic swimmers without tail hooks?

[buckethead]

Anyone fish plastic swimmers without tail hooks?

Monty I fish them that way when bluefish are there standard naked siwash. No sense in letting the bluefish tear those nice tails up. Have also found that at times when the bass are finicky the tails will prompt them to hit more. It depends on when and what I am fishing for.

[Monty]

Monty I fish them that way when bluefish are there standard naked siwash. No sense in letting the bluefish tear those nice tails up. Have also found that at times when the bass are finicky the tails will prompt them to hit more. It depends on when and what I am fishing for.

Thanks Buckethead, I have not fished them without a treble.
How about with nothing at all on the rear?

[buckethead]

If you do that you want to make sure it's balanced and doesn't affect the action. Try swimming it in clear water, try changing hooks, etc, until you get it right. Another thing don't upsize the treble too big when you do that it could affect the action as well

[Monty]

Lost a SP Minnow that I liked a lot and ended up using the Savage Prey Minnow that caught the bass below.
It seems to swims deeper than the SP.
Casts just as good. Cost was $12.00 each, cost $2.00 more than the SP.

SP Minnow in middle of two Savage Prey Minnows.

[surfstix1963]

Rapala sub-walk.Once mastered it is deadly. Just a thought.

[storminsteve]

^^ What do you mean by that surfstix? Can you please elaborate? thanks

[surfstix1963]

Once you master fishing the plug it is deadly due to the sub surface action the plug has.

[storminsteve]

thanks surfstix!
Obi-wan-kenobi.

[DarkSkies]

Small and skinny bait is a good idea to use a small and skinny something or other to throw at the fish.
When the mullet and bunker are big and thick I start useing bigger stuff.

Most of the Bass I have caught this August have been on the 5 1/2" loaded Red Fin.
Very Skinny

Very good points, guys.




The SP vs the SM......for Fall Fishing....
First introduced to the public in Mid 2008 (Finchaser and friends were testing them in 2007)

Many of the threads out there have been about the SPs.....some like them because they are longer, a little heavier. You can get more distance from them and punch them out better if it's windy.

This video where I review and upgrade the Daiwa, is actually the DSM, the smaller one.



Have had a lot of success with that one with fish to the low 20# range.

To recap....
DSM, or SM:
4 1/3 to 5 1/4" long, weighing 4/9 to 2/3 oz...13F series said to be the most popular

DSP. or SP:
6" long, and approx 1 1/4 oz...15F series said to be the most popular

However, for most of the year, when smaller bait is around, I'm partial to the Daiwa SM, or DSM as some refer to them.
I'm upgrading the hooks and split rings, so that's no problem should I run into a bigger fish.
What I like the best about it, is the small profile.....

Realistically, many baitfish in the back bays at this time are 2-4"....hence my preference for that small profile.

[DarkSkies]

I just bought 7 Redfins, and 5 more Bombers, I'm going to load a few Redfins, and Bombers.

Vpass and the other guys make a great point here.....it doesn't have to be a Daiwa.

For me the focus this time of year in the back bay, late summer fishing for bass, blues, and other predators, is to fish something smaller that more closely resembles what they are feeding on.....Any small, skinny plug that you can get out there and work effectively given the weather conditions, should produce, The key is to have confidence in what you're throwing.

[basshunter]

x2 on the small plugs this time of year. When its windy they are a pita to throw. As long as it is calm it's all good. I like the mirrolures and the glass minnows I think they are like 3" long they are perfect size.