Obama after Sandy Hook Elementary: "we must change"

[hookset]

The fallout is already being felt - from yahoo.com


At the same time, private equity company Cerberus Capital Management reported that it's selling off its entire investment in Bushmaster and returning any profit made to investors. Cerberus bought Bushmaster in 2006, then merged it with additional gun companies to create Freedom Group, which reported net sales of $677 million for the first nine months of 2012, up $112 million from 2011. In a statement, Cerberus said, "It is not our role to take positions, or attempt to shape or influence the gun control policy debate. That is the job of our federal and state legislators. There are, however, actions that we as a firm can take."
****'s Sporting Goods (DKS) -- which boasts 500 stores in 44 states -- has, for now, removed display of all guns nearest its Newtown store and also ceased the sale of modern sporting rifles in all stores. In a statement on its Web site, ****'s says, "Out of respect for the victims and their families, during this time of national mourning we have removed all guns from sale and from display in our store nearest to Newtown and suspended the sale of modern sporting rifles in all of our stores chainwide."
Interestingly, some reports say sales of guns have increased following the shooting, likely at least in part because consumers fear stricter gun laws could limit their access. While the hard sales numbers are not yet available, dealers across the country are reporting a heavy increase over the past few days. One Florida gun store employee told Yahoo! Finance said that, in his store this past Monday, they grossed $40,000, while, "on a typical weekday, we strive to gross $10,000."

\At the same time, gun stocks, following a quick initial surge after the news of the shooting first hit, have fallen hard this week; Smith & Wesson (SWHC) has been down as much as 10% on Tuesday. Both Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger & Company (RGR) had already dipped in the days before the shooting, following a surge that has till left Smith & Wesson with up 92% year-to-date. Ruger is up 28%.
Early business reaction has not been limited to the world of gun retailers. The business of media has also taken note. On Friday, a Pittsburgh red-carpet premiere for Tom Cruise's $50,000,000 Paramount Pictures vehicle "Jack Reacher," in which he plays an investigator tracking a sniper, was put on hold "out of respect for the families." The Discovery Channel has also canceled its reality series "American Guns," which follows a Colorado family that works in the firearms business. This comes after Facebook users rushed the show's site and called for its ouster in the wake of the shootings. The show is currently out of production but has run for two seasons and 26 episodes, and has been popular with audiences. According to reports, the season two premiere had a 50% increase over the first season debut.
The videogame industry is another that could be affected following the Sandy Hook tragedy, as fingers point toward the often violent games' effect on the psyche of American youth (Lanza was apparently a fan of the wildly popular, military-themed "Call of Duty"). These early reactions could lead to long-term changes in the business world, or we could go back to "business as usual" before long. This remains to be seen as this far-reaching, fast-moving story continues to unfold

[jonthepain]

When the '94 gun ban came into place, and then expired 10 years later, there was an excellent opportunity to study the effects on gun control and assault weapons on society - the ATF and GAO found absolutely no change in crime rates or mass shooting rates.

The Columbine shooting happened in the middle of the "assault weapons" ban.

[Monty]

If the Bushmaster that was used in these killings was purchased legally, which seems to be what happened, if there was a ban on assault weapons the likely hood of this piece of *hit having a semi-automatic like this weapon would have been reduced.

When the Constitution was written (Second Amendment specifically) there were not weapons imaginable such as these "assault weapons".

Civilized:Showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; humane, ethical, and reasonable.

We live in a country with so many different types of people, so many different opinions, people with all types of issues, stress levels, moral and immoral, mentally stable and unstable. In my opinion these types of assault weapons have no place in a civilized country such as ours. They need to become unavailable and made illegal to be owned. Just my opinion (First Amendment).

[jonthepain]

If the Bushmaster that was used in these killings was purchased legally, which seems to be what happened, if there was a ban on assault weapons the likely hood of this piece of *hit having a semi-automatic like this weapon would have been reduced.

well, unfortunately, when these weapons WERE banned, it had no effect whatsoever, according to statistics and the ATF and GAO studies.

Again, in the middle of the ban, Columbine.

In Norway, on July 22, 2011, Anders Behring Breivik killed 69 kids and adults at a youth camp, and injured another 110, with legally obtained firearms

Norway has much stricter gun laws than here.

What kind of an assault weapon did Martin Berns or Timothy McVeigh use? Oh yeah, a bomb.

McVeigh used fertilizer to kill 168 people, including 19 children under the age of 6, and injured 680 people.

[finchaser]

Hopefully like everything else NObama does it will be a failure.

[DarkSkies]

Monty thanks for the clarification....
I meant to say semi-automatic.....

And Jon, you are right on with your posts....folks need to be aware that we have had these incidents all throughout the world.
That being said, I think there will be a push to ban the semi automatics.....

But where do you stop?
You could make an argument for banning 9mm Glock type pistols as well....and I really feel people should be able to buy those types for self defense.
The way criminals are nowadays, if someone is coming at you to kill, and they're armed with a 9mm,,,,shouldn't you have the option of being armed with a 9mm as well?

I have very little knowledge of guns, so I appreciate the feedback from those who do....
My concern would be protecting my family from the animals out there....and there are some very sick people who I classify as animals....one shot is not enough for these freaks....you need to put multiple holes in them to make sure they are stopped from coming after you.......

Again, my deepest sympathies to all the victims in the world...
But my experience with crime, is that the police often get there after the fact...when it is happening you have every right as a citizen to protect your life....



Good discussion people, thanks for your opinions.

[buckethead]

The videogame industry is another that could be affected following the Sandy Hook tragedy, as fingers point toward the often violent games' effect on the psyche of American youth (Lanza was apparently a fan of the wildly popular, military-themed "Call of Duty"). These early reactions could lead to long-term changes in the business world, or we could go back to "business as usual" before long. This remains to be seen as this far-reaching, fast-moving story continues to unfold

If you want to talk about the violent video games you also need to lump the rap music in there. Are there any parents out there today paying attention to the rap their kids listen to? All about ******* and hoes. They glorify gun violence, selling drugs, and violence against women. I don't understand how those monkeys can get away with it. They are all about glamorizing violence to get paid. What happens when some impressionable kids act like they do in the videos and start thinking the thug lifestyle is the way to live?

[clamchucker]

The videogame industry is another that could be affected following the Sandy Hook tragedy, as fingers point toward the often violent games' effect on the psyche of American youth (Lanza was apparently a fan of the wildly popular, military-themed "Call of Duty"). These early reactions could lead to long-term changes in the business world, or we could go back to "business as usual" before long. This remains to be seen as this far-reaching, fast-moving story continues to unfold

I agree with this hookset. I recently got my daughter in law mad at me because I had a chance to view the video games that my grandchildren were playing. One of them is called grand theft auto, I think. It is extremely violent. People are killed callously and it seems like a very bloody game. I feel these games are affecting the morality of our youth. They are very impressionable at that age.

[speedy]

hey don`t get me started like fin said the kid was ill but there should not be guns and head problems in the same house .. IMO !!!!!!

IT WAS VERY SAD WHAT HAPPENED VERY SAD !!

[jonthepain]

interesting article about the assault weapons ban by a liberal:

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/...-ill-tell-you/