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    Default Obama after Sandy Hook Elementary: "we must change"

    We can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change.
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    If there’s even one step we can take to save another child or another parent or another town from the grief that’s visited Tucson and Aurora and Oak Creek and Newtown and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that, then surely we have an obligation to try.

    In the coming weeks, I’ll use whatever power this office holds...

    Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard?

    Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?
    Wow the media is really going crazy with new gun control hysteria.

    I stopped in my two local gun dealer's stores and dropped off some NCPHA cards today.

    They were packed full of customers. I could hardly get in. One had an on-duty cop sitting in his squad car across the street, watching.

    What do you think Obama will try first? An executive order banning Bushmasters? All AR-style rifles? Multi-capacity magazines?

    How about a large federal surcharge on ammo, say a buck a round?

    Where will it stop? Great Britain forced all citizens to turn in their firearms, can Obama do that to us?

    I sense a big change coming. He's already moved us away from our Founder's vision for our great country, towards socialism.

    Now with the political capital he's banked, along with the international outcry over our "rabid gun-crazed society" (have you read some of the foreign press?), will he use this tragedy to "fundamentally transform America?"

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    He's a useless piece of sh_t I want to every time I hear or see him. I still can't believe after how he has ruined this great country assho_les reelected him.

    The kid was mentally ill and used his mothers guns to kill her and the other which in it self is a tragedy. IMO this was caused by an irresponsible parent not storing theses weapons in a secure place like a gun safe. Big brother will only keep guns out of law biding citizens hands not criminals as illegal gun trade will always exist. His main reason is to probably protect his as_ and leave the US unprotected from his Muslim buddies.

    OK DS ban me from the site I don't care

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    [QUOTE=jonthepain;64140] An executive order banning Bushmasters? All AR-style rifles? Multi-capacity magazines?

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    I'm not a "gun" person. What is the draw back of eliminating the sale of automatic or multi capacity magazines/guns? Making it illegal to have them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonthepain View Post
    What do you think Obama will try first? An executive order banning Bushmasters? All AR-style rifles? Multi-capacity magazines?

    How about a large federal surcharge on ammo, say a buck a round?

    Where will it stop? Great Britain forced all citizens to turn in their firearms, can Obama do that to us?

    I sense a big change coming. He's already moved us away from our Founder's vision for our great country, towards socialism.

    Now with the political capital he's banked, along with the international outcry over our "rabid gun-crazed society" (have you read some of the foreign press?), will he use this tragedy to "fundamentally transform America?"
    I sense a big change also. I feel that they will be banning all AR-style rifles, and large stock piles of AMMO. The Taxes on new purchases will be insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by finchaser View Post
    Big brother will only keep guns out of law biding citizens hands not criminals as illegal gun trade will always exist. His main reason is to probably protect his as_ and leave the US unprotected from his Muslim buddies.

    I heard the only reason the Japanese didn't invade the Main land was because all the crazy americans were heavly armed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post

    I'm not a "gun" person. What is the draw back of eliminating the sale of automatic or multi capacity magazines/guns? Making it illegal to have them?
    I'm not a gun person either. I had thought about getting a hand gun. my father did own a rifle for hunting. I do believe in the 2nd admendment. I also believe if any of the adults that were murdered were carrying a gun it might of been a different situtation there might of been fewer deaths.

    Criminals will always find another way. Taking guns away might make things worse. We need to protect ourself, and not depend on the govement/local police. The goverment is definitly looking for a reason to take our right away.

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    Another 4 years of A$$holism,if people protected their guns and kept them properly locked up children wouldn't get their hands on them and do things like this.If it were a knife are they going to take away our steak knives I don't own a gun either but I don't knock anyone that has them either.Quite honestly if my family was being threatened I would not hesitate to take you out any way possible and not feel a damn bit guilty about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surfstix1963 View Post
    Another 4 years of A$$holism,if people protected their guns and kept them properly locked up children wouldn't get their hands on them and do things like this.If it were a knife are they going to take away our steak knives I don't own a gun either but I don't knock anyone that has them either.Quite honestly if my family was being threatened I would not hesitate to take you out any way possible and not feel a damn bit guilty about it.
    For the record I am not a gun person either and agree with SS about protecting the family

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    I have also thought about getting a gun to protect my family. The past 5 years I have given it serious thought and may still try to legally get one. If I had a gun and someone was breaking into my house I would blast away. And maybe (hopefully) hit him.
    But I just do not see the reason for these semi-automatic guns with 30 or so bullets in them that can be shot in less than 1/2 a minute.
    So many extremes in this country, No guns vs the right for any type of gun. There is a reasonable middle.
    Also on being allowed to purchase a gun, people bitching about having to wait a certain period of time for background checks. From what I have heard the last few days there are lots of people who just don't give a **** who has a gun as long as they can buy one when ever they want one. And people bitching about regulation.
    That mortgage deregulation a few years ago didn't show how good we can handle non-regulated things that need to be regulated.
    There are some things that need to be regulated, not going crazy here, but in my opinion I do not think the gun used in these killings should be available to citizens in this country. Yes it was a deranged monster who did this, got his hands on guns his mother should have had locked up. But she more than likely purchased that gun legally. Does anyone know if this gun used in these killings would have been legal before the assault weapons ban expired? Yes guns don't kill people, people do. Some people should not be near guns. And some guns that can cause mass killings like this should not be available....If so for what?
    This country has veered off track. Greed, I don't give a **** about you as long as I'm happy this second attitude.
    Somethings (MANY) have to change or I fear things will continue to worsen. I think there are going to be a lot more screwed up young adults the next few years with mental problems and the sense of entitlement, things don't look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonthepain View Post

    1.Where will it stop? Great Britain forced all citizens to turn in their firearms, can Obama do that to us?

    2. I sense a big change coming. He's already moved us away from our Founder's vision for our great country, towards socialism.

    3. Now with the political capital he's banked, along with the international outcry over our "rabid gun-crazed society" (have you read some of the foreign press?), will he use this tragedy to "fundamentally transform America?"



    I don't own guns Jon, but as some others have mentioned here, it's a fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution.....

    Every day I think about the recent Sandy Hook tragedy......I'm the kind of person, these things really get to me.....I get into great detail thinking not only about the poor children who will never get a chance to grow up, but also about the families, and the lifelong effect this will have on them.

    I have some folks I know who have lost a child or loved one at an early age, and that loss has been something which some never recover from....the pain is deep, the hurt is great....and even the passage of time doesn't help in some cases....

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