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    Thumbs up Bluefish on the Fly

    I need some general advice on my leader material when it comes to the fly rod.

    I am going to hit the RB later today around high tide and plan to bring only my 8wt rod.

    I have one tapered leader (RIO 7ft 20lb). I plan to use this with about 6" of 30lb surfstrand knotable wire.

    If something where to go wrong with leader then I have 20, 30 and 60lb mono to make my own or 20 & 40lb fluro.

    I plan to fish with Bob's bangers mostly.

    Does anyone see anything wrong with this setup?

    I have been told the 8wt is too light for the big blues but its the heaviest fly rod that I currently own. I think the only issue will be getting a solid hookset on such a soft rod.

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    Default Re: Bluefish on the Fly

    Hi JB I'm not a fan of wire for fly fishing. I like using 80 pound test line around 6 inches, I also use straight 15 pound test line for my leader for my 7wt and 20 pound test for my 10wt. The lenght of the leader should be around 8 to 9 feet for floating line and 4 or 5 feet for sinking line. anywhere in the middle for intermidiate. Your rio 7ft is fine, just be aware that your flyline breaking point is around 20 pounds also. so put a tippet between the leader and the wire or heavy mono.

    I like using the albright knot.



    I also use the Alberto knot.



    For tying the fly to the leader/tippet I use a Homer Rhode Knot, so the fly could pivot and have more action.



    For the 8wt. you should have no problem handling the fish. once you get some experiance. Use the butt of your rod to fight the fish, and palm the reel to add drag when needed. The weight rating of the rod is more for the size of the flyline. The flyline is what carries the fly. If the fly is to heavy for the flyline it won't cast well. you will have to match the fly to the flyline. good luck

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    Default Re: Bluefish on the Fly

    Quote Originally Posted by vpass View Post
    The flyline is what carries the fly. If the fly is to heavy for the flyline it won't cast well. you will have to match the fly to the flyline. good luck

    nice vpass. What wt rod or size line would you use for some of the bigger bunker flys?

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    Default Re: Bluefish on the Fly

    Quote Originally Posted by hookset View Post
    nice vpass. What wt rod or size line would you use for some of the bigger bunker flys?
    I use a 10wt. for that size fly. It also alters your timing due to drag. You have to slow down your foward and back cast (Longer pause between the two. you still need the speed/acceleration part of the cast), the same thing with a larger popper. it takes alittle time to get use to.

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    Default Re: Bluefish on the Fly

    Great info vpass thanks for sharing.

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    Default Re: Bluefish on the Fly

    VPass, thanks for sharing what I am sure is a lot of hard earned knowledge over the years.

    I will practice the Homer Rhode Loop knot tonight; I am already familiar with the Alberto knot.

    My fly line has a welded loop (RIO Outbound 8WT floating) on the tag end and I made some spare 20lb leaders with a perfection loop knot on the tag end. Is this where you would use the Albright or Alberto knot instead of a perfection loop?

    The other day when I was out I realized first hand why steel leaders are no good for flies. It curls up and even a slight curl combined with a light fly ruins the presentation.

    I am just thinking out loud here to better understand why these are the preferred methods. Teach a man how to fish analogy…

    For floating line a 8-9ft leader will help in not having a bunch of heavy fly line hit the water and spook any nearby fish and it will also let the fly sink a little for a better presentation.

    With a sinking line we no longer have to worry about the above two issues and it now becomes a reduced visibility and chaffing leader.

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