OGB
Compromise for access to the jetty's what a joke you will have access to the backs they will just bury the fronts like Manasquan or fill in the sides like by the inlet. The contract has been awarded you don't un-award a government contract just my .02
Pay attention to what history has taught us or be prepared to relive it again
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Its feeding timeOriginally Posted by finchaser
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Update courtesy of Finchaser, thanks.
"The battle against the jetty notching and replenishment has continued. Notching is targeted to begin in Oct 2014, and legislators have been engaged with limited results. The fight against replenishment appears to be a lost cause – they are going to do it because the money has been allocated. So we are focusing on the notching in the hopes that when the replenished sand gets washed away, the jetties will be intact. Jerry Taylor pointed out, “they are selling us back the sand they sold us 18 years ago.”
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Thank you for the updates. We still have no use of the N jetty, Damn army corps of engineers. all they care about is job security
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Not so fast there finchaser.
This was released today, saw it on nj.com. The only thing that seems to me to be a joke is that Pallone announced it jointly with the ACOE. Pallone was the one who was responsible for the replenishment funds in the first place. That guy is a lying sack of _____
(prefer not to use that word in reference to him but that is how I feel)
The following release from Rep. Frank Pallone provides good news for surfcasters along the nothern Shore who had been facing the loss of all their fish-holding jetties to sand replenishment projects:
LONG BRANCH, NJ – Today, Congressman Frank Pallone, Jr. (NJ-06) hosted a meeting with the Army Corps of Engineers and the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection (NJDEP) to revisit concerns previously expressed by fishermen, surfers and recreational users regarding the Elberon to Loch Arbour Beach Replenishment project. Today's discussion followed up on an April 2014 meeting that Pallone hosted with concerned citizens after the Army Corps released their initial draft proposal for the replenishment project.
Originally, the Army Corps had planned to notch six groins, also known as jetties, between Elberon and Loch Arbour. However, in response to the first meeting, the Army Corps presented a revised plan today that will only notch three groins within the project area. The Corps announced that they will not be notching the groins at the end of Whitehall Ave. in Deal, Roseld Ave. in Deal, and Cedar Ave. in Allenhurst.
There was also discussion at today's meeting of constructing shallower notches than originally planned in order to allow access across the notches during low tide. The Army Corps is examining the possibility of that option with the three groins in Deal that will be notched, including Phillips Ave., Deal Casino, and South of Deal Esplanade near Marine Pl.
"I agree with the concerns that many have voiced with respect to notching the groins in this area and the impacts that it may have on recreational fishing," said Congressman Pallone. "This new plan is a compromise with the Army Corps. I want to thank all the fishermen and other residents who took the time to submit comments and voice their concerns throughout this process."
The Deal Lake Flume was also discussed at today's meeting with Congressman Pallone. The Army Corps agreed to install an electronic gate which would allow the outfall to be cleared efficiently if it were to become blocked by sand. All parties agreed that there was no need to extend the Deal Lake Flume farther into the ocean. Instead, there would be improved monitoring of the sand placement by the Corps during the project to avoid any excessive placement of sand in the area of the flume.
Today's meeting also confirmed that the Army Corps will insist that towns maintain existing beach access points and parking areas and will explore the possibility of new access points in the project area from Lake Takanassee to Deal Lake.
The contract for the Elberon to Loch Arbour Beach Replenishment Project is expected to be awarded in October or November 2014 and work will start soon after, weather permitting.
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I agree I think Pallone is like a snake oil salesman. Would sell his own mother for a photo op! thanks for keeping us informed and for all the hard work bucket head.
OGB
Forgive me if I don't believe Pallone's smoke and mirror press release
Parking and access were in the original plan to get sand except for Deal every town was for it. Note all the exceptions are in Deal if they get their way little will be done and limited access also probably no parking along entire beach front. Remember towns now have the last say for access and parking including times not the FED's since the DEP relinquished power to the towns and stepped out of the picture. Look at Long Branch and Point Pleasant can't park near the water without paying like $3.00 hour. Pallone and other politicians are rated on what kind of job they do by the money they bring into their district no matter what its for even sand. He lives in Elboron, and needs sand to protect his neighborhood, think of how much access is there and note Elboron gets done first. Rumor has it the contract has already been awarded just waiting on the formal announcement put on hold because of all this bullsh_t.
Pallone the fisherman's friend started way back when in Long branch when he assured the clubs Striped bass would be a game fish coast wide if we voted for him , over 20 years have passed he went from councilman to congress man and he's still playing that card. The jetties are getting buried the only thing is how many will be notched that's the compromise they went from leaving some to maybe just small notches.
The jetties won't be able to be used until all the sand washes away and how deep do you think the water around the jetty will be??? IMO not fishable as most can attest that have seen this before. Go check out Manasquan the sand washed off jetties since the 2014 replenishment but they remain unfishable with numerous sand bars off the fronts and beach including the inlet so there is unfishable access. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACCESS (which they preach) AND FISHABLE ACCESS.
Pay attention to what history has taught us or be prepared to relive it again
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I know it's politically correct to try to look at the positive in life, but this is a total sham. It's not even about protecting the property owners, from the ACOE's perspective.....they claim it's about preventing beach erosion....that theory is so full of holes you could make Swiss Cheese with it.....
There is no scientific basis for doing what they're doing....and no long-term engineering studies to support that it works.
Needless to say, IMO Rep Pallone held this meeting to shine his tarnished image up for the election posturing.
He's already beloved by homeowners.
This move was the latest in a series to show he is still the "fishermens friend"
This changes nothing. It's a dog and pony show.
I will be actively campaigning for his opponent in the November election.
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