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    rp, the way I read it there really isn't much changed from the "no access" now, because it will be closed during the beach season. OK it will be open to night fishermen, but how does that help people like Stanley Hentschel? Why can't Brookhaven adopt the same rules and regulations that Riverhead has? Riverhead has a plan that works, it is not overrun with fishermen and trash, and people go there to fish and spend money. What is stopping Brookhaven from doing this?

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    Guys,

    This is one proposal from one politician (Jane Bonner). This is the politician who was behind the banning to begin with. I dont like the proposal one bit and there is no way this will be the final proposal. The Coalition will be meeting with new town supervisor Mark Lesko on this issue.

    IMHO this Bonner proposal will never fly. Dont forget she is only one person on the board and there now is a new Town Supervisor. Both parties pledged their support to the fisherman. I am pretty confident we will get what we want.

    John

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    politicians=snake oil salesmen
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    At the recent Town of Brookhaven meeting where several organizations attended Jane Bonner happened to be the only individual who seemed to be against everything for the fisherman. She could have done the right thing a long time ago. Apparently she never will. From what several of her own constituents are talking about, her political career will be short lived. Its only a matter of time when a qualified individual stands up to run for her position as Councilwoman or Councilman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Farrell View Post
    She could have done the right thing a long time ago. Apparently she never will. From what several of her own constituents are talking about, her political career will be short lived. Its only a matter of time when a qualified individual stands up to run for her position as Councilwoman or Councilman.


    vote her out of office.

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    Jane Bonner may just step aside on her own when it comes to the next Election.

    On 15May09 Willy Young, Debbie Delgado and I will be meeting in person with the new Town Supervisor Mark Lesko.

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    I seems to me as if Jane is going to learn her lesson the hard way. You can't be the only one against fisherman and still be standing after an election. Maybe Tom is right, she will just step down on her own. Maybe she can't wait to step down.

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    I can finally give all of you some very good news. I finally spoke to Supervisor Mark Lesko today. The Town of Brookhaven now has a new policy regarding fishing at Shoreham Beach. As of today Shoreham Beach has been added to Brookhaven’s Night Fishing Permit. Also fisherman will be required to obtain a fishing access sticker for Shoreham Beach for daytime use. This is not a fishing permit or license. It is to determine who is a resident or a non resident. The fishing access sticker will be free to all Town of Brookhaven residents. If you are a non resident you will be able to park in the lot for a fee of $20 and that parking fee will include the sticker. Walk on’s will be permitted for a fee of $10. You will be required to provide valid legal documentation to obtain the sticker. The normal hours of the beach will be extended as well. The beach will be open from 5am to 9pm daily. There will be employees in the booth during those hours. The official opening date for Shoreham Beach is 27 June 2009. However the night fishing permit is currently in effect.

    Thank you to everyone who assisted in this effort. If it wasn’t for each and every one of you as individuals this may not have been possible. Each email, phone call, letter sent, petition signed carried a lot of weight in getting Shoreham Beach open to fisherman. This goes to show you what can be done when you are organized and when you stand up for your rights. I also need to thank all of the websites for all of there support. They made it much easier to mobilize everyone in our efforts of regaining access at the beach. Last but not least we also need to thank Supervisor Lesko for all of his support. He has clearly proven that he is a friend of the fisherman and looking out for the best interests of everyone involved. You can all be proud of this victory.

    There will be more to follow in the near future. Once again thank you for all of your support.

    Sincerely,

    Tom Farrell
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    THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

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    to Willy Young, Tom, Darkskies, and all the other guys who lent a hand in this. Great news!



    Get your tackle box ready
    Town officials reach compromise over fishing at Shoreham Beach
    BY PEGGY SPELLMAN HOEY |STAFF WRITER
    Peter Blasl Photo Fishermen casting their lines at Cedar Beach and other areas along the North Shore will soon be allowed to return to Shoreham Beach, where fishing had been banned for the past year. Fishing line will soon be back in the Sound over at Shoreham Beach.

    Town officials have reached a compromise on the issue of fishing at Shoreham Beach, a town-maintained beach that was closed to fishermen and boaters last year when a gate was installed at the front entrance following complaints by residents about trespassing.
    The beach, which is next to the former Shoreham nuclear power plant, is accessible to the public by an access road located off North Country Road. Numerous complaints concerning the use of all-terrain vehicles, vagrancy, littering, and trespassing into backyards have been lodged with Suffolk police, increasing in direct relation to the arrival of the summer crowd at Shoreham Beach.

    This caused officials last year to install a security gate and cameras to deter vehicles from entering the property after lifeguards close up for the night, as well as bilingual "no fishing" signs.

    This raised the ire of members of several fishing advocacy organizations, who argued that their rights to walk below the mean high-water mark were violated, giving way to a series of debates on message boards and a petition to restore access to the site.

    According to town officials, fishing and boating have never been allowed at the site, although the rule was never enforced.
    Brookhaven Supervisor Mark Lesko, who recently met to discuss beach access issues with the New York State Coalition for Recreational Fishing -- the state's largest lobbying group that looks after the rights of recreational fishermen and their issues concerning access -- residents, the Long Island Power Authority and National Grid, said officials will allow fishing at the beach by the use of a fishing access sticker.

    The stickers will be free and will be provided by the seasonal workers at the booth with proof of identification. Nonresidents who use the parking lot will be charged a $20 fee for parking, and nonresident walk-ons to the beach will have to pay a $10 fee.

    The beach has also been added to the list of beaches that are covered by the night-fishing permit; however, nonresidents are not eligible, the supervisor said.

    Officials have also extended the hours of operation, previously 11 a.m. to 6 p.m., to 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. There will be two seasonal employees on duty per day at the beach, and there will also be expanded enforcement efforts by park rangers and code enforcement.

    Mr. Lesko commended everyone for coming to the table and arriving at a solution.

    "All of this is to address the unique situation at Shoreham Beach, which was a serious issue for residents who live near the beach and also law enforcement," Mr. Lesko said. "This is specific to this beach," he added.

    Coalition president William Young said members of the delegation, who met with Mr. Lesko, requested that both day and night fishing be restored to the area, and suggested the use of a card key reader, offering to help with its costs, so that the town could keep track of who was using the facility.

    The coalition also requested a fishing advisory committee to discuss beach access issues across the township and especially on the North Shore, which has very few public access points between Mount Sinai and Wading River. Many of the public access roads, where fishermen used to park, have been whittled away over the years, dedicated to beach property owners' associations, he said.
    Mr. Young said he was pleased with the agreement, but noted there are still other issues with fishing throughout the town.

    "It's a general good-for-now agreement," he said.
    Mr. Lesko said town officials will consider creation of a fishing advisory committee to address the issue of parking at other fishing areas throughout town and whether or not nonresidents should be included in night fishing permit.

    The advisory committee would have to be set up by resolution of the Town Board, he said.

    Second District Councilwoman Jane Bonner, who said officials have met extensively with all the stakeholders on the issue, said she was glad to see a resolution that would solve both the access issue and accountability. "I'm gratified," she said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassBuddah View Post
    Second District Councilwoman Jane Bonner, who said officials have met extensively with all the stakeholders on the issue, said she was glad to see a resolution that would solve both the access issue and accountability. "I'm gratified," she said.
    She's gratified? Certified is more like it. Great job guys!

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    Way to go people!

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    Now you have to get Bonner out of office.

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    Very good news! Eddie Morris just called me and informed me that Shoreham Beach is now open to fishing. He was extremely sincere and apologized for all of the confusion. Shoreham Beach should be open tomorrow morning around 5am. The stickers are not ready yet so for the time being the park employees will be checking peoples identification and permitting access. There may be some kinks to work out but for the mean time lets enjoy the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Farrell View Post
    He was extremely sincere and apologized for all of the confusion. .
    You would never have gotten anything resembling an apology if all those numbers of fishermen didn't get involved. Nice work Tom, NYCRF and everyone else.

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    Most excellent news, Tom. Great work guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripercrazy View Post
    You would never have gotten anything resembling an apology if all those numbers of fishermen didn't get involved. Nice work Tom, NYCRF and everyone else.
    Thats for sure. If not for the incredible and sustained amount of pressure put on by the fisherman, that beach would still be closed. Every email, letter, name on the petition, phone call, every post on a web site, every person who showed up at a meeting, etc, etc it all mattered.

    Surely the next battle will pop-up somewhere, we proved we wont let our rights be trampled upon at Shoreham and will continue to do so wherever we fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpsurf5 View Post
    Every email, letter, name on the petition, phone call, every post on a web site, every person who showed up at a meeting, etc, etc it all mattered.

    The power of strength in numbers, great job guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhopper View Post
    Now you have to get Bonner out of office.
    Come election time we definitely need to remember who instituted this ban to begin with. Its clear now who is for the fisherman and who is against them.

    I saw this sign at RPFS last weekend !


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    Can any tell me if Brookhave is still open to fishing or did it change again?

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    Still open, but less hours then it was last year. Doesnt open until 4th of July weekend and only open Fridays to Sundays. Closed Labor day. Better then not being open at all, but to me these hours are completely unacceptable.

    You should be able to park at gate and walk to the beach, although its a long walk.

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