I can't stand the guys with their lights on at all times either, mick and monty. They are just selfish. Why do you need to light up the whole beach? Sorry to hear you took the skunk at mecca, Mick. I fished west of you and did the same, out twice in the week-end, at night, winds were bad and made it hard to throw. The only thing that worked for me to get it out there was a ss needlefish. Still no action, this fall has sucked for me so far.