The phantom top was around 200 and the bayman around 110 (going by memory). I have not had the trouble Frankiesurf had (if I did I would not have bought the bayman). If I needed a new top and had some time, I would look on e-bay and look at the tops mentioned for kayaks (some good deals), but that is risky. Like Dark, I got nalied by a wave 3 weeks ago while wearing the phantom top and ended up 20 feet from where I was standing. Was still dry. I was surprised to hear AS did not stand behind their product. In this industry reputation goes a long way.