Sandy Hook access?

[J Barbosa]

Pebbles,

I strongly believe everyone needs health insurance but....

I'm not affiliated with either political party but I am a medical billing manager for a small company. We provide services to around 100 doctors. I've spent a bunch of time trying to understand all of the changes yet still find myself very confused.

What's clear to me is that the healthcare law raises costs for everyone including the very young like myself in order to help subsidize those that don't work or are working at McDonalds in their forties flipping burgers.

The math counts on a bunch of young and healthy uninsured Americans to join and pay inflated premiums for very basic policies.

The only people who will see a benefit from this law is those who rely on the government for assistance.

I wish these exchanges offered good insurance but after day two these just look to be highly stripped down plans at a moderately subsidized cost.

If you want the truth from a non biased source check the 370 page "primer" Merrill Lynch released today. If anyone wants to read it but doesn't have access PM me your email and I'll send you it.

[xtreme_visions]

What they need to do is stop giving money and free housing to crackheads and lazy bums. That will fix everything. Arm yourself and get ready because this country is getting uglier by the day.

[finchaser]

Lets not forget the billions that go to other countries including Japan while seniors here go hungry like I said he's a piece of sh_t destroying a once great country

[storminsteve]

What they need to do is stop giving money and free housing to crackheads and lazy bums. That will fix everything. Arm yourself and get ready because this country is getting uglier by the day.

Agreed, one of the only countries in the world where the criminals have more rights than the victims.
So who wants to park in Sea Bright and walk north in the park. If we get 30 guys together do you think they can arrest us?

[surferman]

You might get arrested if you did that Steve. Didn't someone say something about guards at the entrance?
Hatteras is closed too. Here is an e-mail I got. In NJ I think Holgate drive on access is shut down too.



Today, October 1st is a sad day in America as our elected representatives have all failed us miserably, resulting in the Federal Government being shut down. Residents and visitors now face the consequences of our government's inaction. This means the Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area is completely closed.Darrell Echols, Deputy Superintendent of the Outer Banks Group stated what has happened to The Island Free Press:National Park Service staffers came to work this morning to secure and close down all facilities and grounds on the seashore and the other parks in the Outer Banks Group - Wright Brothers National Monument and Fort Raleigh National Historic Site.When their work is done, 146 employees of the Outer Banks Group will be furloughed, while 13 will continue working to ensure public safety. Residents and visitors can expect wide-ranging consequences. They include:*By 7 a.m. all ramps on the seashore - on the Oceanside and the Soundside were chained.*All visitor centers and maintenance and administrative facilities are closed.*The road to the Bodie Island Lighthouse will be blocked. The Lighthouse Road in Buxton will be blocked just beyond Flowers Ridge Road.*All ORV permit offices will be closed.*All parking areas on the Soundside and the Oceanside will be closed and secured - including facilities at Coquina Beach, Ocracoke Day Use Area, Canadian Hole, Kite Point, the Frisco Bathhouse, and Sandy Bay day use area. Also closed and secured will be all parking areas at various Oceanside ramps on Hatteras and Ocracoke.*Campers will have 48 hours after today at 6 p.m. to clear the campgrounds.*Commercial operations within the seashore will also close, including the Avon Pier, Oregon Inlet Fishing Center, and businesses that offer attractions such as horseback riding on the beach. The Fishing Center will have until 6 p.m. Thursday to close down.*The Graveyard of the Atlantic Museum, a state-owned facility on park land, will remain open.*The three airstrips in the park area will be closed.*All National Park Service websites will be closed down, and visitors to the sites will get a message about the shutdown.Although these restrictions will shut down ORV access to the seashore, pedestrian access will be allowed in areas such as the Oceanfront and Oceanside houses in the villages.However, access to either the Sound or Ocean beaches by parking along Highway 12 right-of-way and walking in to kiteboard, surfboard, fish, or surf will also be prohibited.For all practical purposes, access to the Sound and the Ocean will be allowed only from private land.Echols said all of the park must be closed or secured by noon today.Thirteen park employees will remain on the job, including nine law enforcement rangers, a public affairs specialist, two water treatment plant operators, and one person who cares for the Ocracoke ponies. Paul Stevens, the Chief Law Enforcement Ranger for the Outer Banks Group, will be the incident commander.Now that the government shutdown has happened this morning, it's anyone's guess how long it will last. If this stubbornness from the President of the U.S. on down continues the government & CHNSRA will remained closed.

[finchaser]

you will be arrested

[SharkHart]

Who can tell this googan what time the night pass kicks in? i sorta think u can fish to 9pm without it?

[storminsteve]

sharkhart it was 9pm until yesterday oct 31. Now it's 8pm. Don't get caught in the park without a permit after dark they are pretty aggressive about ticketing. They used to be a lot more lenient but I guess with Sandy damage and all they need the money.

http://stripersandanglers.com/Forum/...Reporting-Info
Fishing parking permits utilized at Sandy Hook Unit authorize access during the following times:
April 1 to October 31 10:00 PM until 5:00 AM
 November 1 to March 31 8:00 PM until 5:00 AM

[buckethead]

I believe you can also walk on and get in for free. I think that applied to the night as well. Not completely sure about that.

folks hardly ever do it. You also used to be able to park in sea bright and the something fishy lot. They are ticketing cars who do that now. Go to Quick chek up the hill and get the money order. Best $50 you will ever spend.

[buckethead]

In case anyone didn't yet know the false hook has been closed indefinitely. I asked the security guard there what that meant. He said at least through the winter. It will be hard to sneak in this time. If you can bypass the webbed security fence there are guards in trucks 24/7 that will chase you out. The indignities that surf fishermen have to go through just to be able to fish the surf are getting worse every year.
Things are nothing like they used to be. Does anyone remember fishing from the Sea Bright wall? Those were the days.

[jigfreak]

Things are nothing like they used to be. Does anyone remember fishing from the Sea Bright wall? Those were the days.

Thanks for ruining my day bucket.
I haven't fished the hook in ages. Mostly because it has gone downhill. The cuts and points are nowhere like they used to be. Check out this pic I found on the net. SH looks nothing like that now, but it used to.

[jigfreak]

Seabright wall that was some of the best fishing up north. When the herring came in the fish would be within casting range and you could catch real fish, 25# and over. Back then when you got a 30" fish there was no internet back slapping or "nice fish!!!!" like you see today. A 30" fish was a baby and something you would not look for recognition for or congratulate yourself for on a video weigh in. The guys at Giglios would laugh if you posted something like that.

When the herring run was on there would be scores of nice fish landed and weighed at Giglios. The fish had to be 30lbs to be praise-worthy. Those were the days all right. I miss them.

[VSdreams]

Thanks for the update bucket and jigfreak for sharing the memories of the sea bright wall. That must have been something. I haven't been fishing for as long as you guys and sure do appreciate you telling it like it was back then.
Guess the sandy hook crowd will not be a crowd any more.

[finchaser]

Live lined many a 20, 30,and 40 pound bass off the wall in the 70 's and 80's on live bunker we bought at Bahr,s landing

[cowherder]

Awesome recollections of the old times thank you for sharing.

[DarkSkies]

Just reported by Finchaser, and originally relayed to the fishing clubs by Sudsy....

the False Hook is allegedly going under the jurisdiction of Homeland security because of the proximity to the shipping lanes.
Something about "possible exposure of cargo ships to potential terrrorist actions"

I don't have the whole story yet, but if true it's....
1. Unnecessary
2. Grandstanding
3. Completely unfair to anyone who fishes that area....that area is as key to North Jersey fishing, as Montauk, is to Long Island fishing.......

[DarkSkies]

I don't know how we'll be able to fight or protest this, folks...but if there is a way to do it, we should......
Please keep us posted with updates, if anyone becomes aware of them.....thanks.....

This is another nail in the coffin for NJ beach and fishing access.

[J Barbosa]

Makes no sense at all.

What are we going to stand on land with an RPG?

Wouldn't boaters be the real terror threat?

[Monty]

Absolutely true, unreal stupid.
What are they going to do close the complete end of the hook down?
What about boats? Way more dangerous than what one person can carry, or even 10 people.
Makes me *ucking sick.

Makes no sense at all.

What are we going to stand on land with an RPG?

Wouldn't boaters be the real terror threat?

[ledhead36]

What about boats? Way more dangerous than what one person can carry, or even 10 people.
Makes me *ucking sick.

the boats would be the biggest risk to attacking a ship. I think that was what happened in Yemen about 10 years ago when those servicemen were killed when that suicide bomber boat made a course for a navy ship. The stupidity of our govt and the decisions it makes never fail to amuse me. We should contact Christie and get some signatures together.